Still I dont believe the players want to lose or advocate booing.

I think the fans vent a lot of anger because of being stuck in a rut with the previous regime. They are never goung to be won over until we win something. This sort of tunnel vision doesnt help. They are the ones who think they are owed something. We all pay our money / buy the shirts. And ill continue to regardless of form / table position / coach or management team.

What they are owed is a performance commensurate with the collective abilities of the players on show. If they don't receive that, it's up to them if they boo.

But happily clap and whoop and holla if theyd have scored at the end. Even tho they played attrociously. Fickleness at its best.

They can be pleased with the two points without being happy with the performance.

Exactly, after the Wigan defeat the fans gave both sets of players a standing ovation for a great hard fought game of rugby, we can accept defeat if the team have given their all and some 50/50 chances or referee calls didn't go our way. But to play so limply against a side 9th in the table at home is a different matter.

The pressure was on Gentle after Good Friday, and he and the team responded...the pressure is even greater now and the issues even harder to fix.

Another thing ill say about Gentle is a dont think hes a big enough man to be able to handle the job of coaching Hull FC - the expectation is too high. We are on paper a massive club that seems to be constantly coached and driven around by people who simply cant handle the job as its too big for them hence constant under performing throughout the years. For this club to move forward and finally achieve what Adam Pearson wants it to acheive then we either have to get the best coach in the british game or one of the best from Australia. Not an assistant and not someone whos on the up.

Nice debating with you. See you on the 'is Gentle a genius thread?' After a few wins....

Same in East stand near me.
That chase back and his attitude/game personifies exactly what we don't have at present.

Wakefield ,supposedly,dont have the names we have but they have a team,again something we are missing at present.

Or the "Did Gentle deserve to be sacked?" Thread?!

Maybe, maybe not but I can tell ya it is his job to fix things and I don't want to see him fail, I want to see us playing a hell of a lot better!

See this is it, you seriously are not a 'massive club', I don't know where you get this idea from!

As said, we've been mediocre to poor for several years now with several different coaches. That suggests the coach isn't the only problem. Years and years of underinvestment, and a 'here for the beer' attitude is going to take time to turn around, particularly as the salary cap doesn't allow us to simply go out and buy a whole new team all at once and our academy has been ignored for so long so there isn't a whole clutch of youngsters ready to come in.

Last few seasons we've been good up front with no creativity. We've sorted that now. Good half back combination, three good half backs in fact with Heremaia as further cover. Great combination down one side with Crooks and Lineham, two for the full back slot, real shame we're losing Briscoe on the other side but still we're well set. We're just lacking down the middle now, Paea coming in and hopefully one other should take care of that. Much better balanced and set up next season so I'll judge the coach at the end of that.

When he took over I thought it would take three years to get right and I think it will. Never going to be a quick fix after years and years of Sharp, Agar and Hetherington.

We are not going to get the best British or one of the best from Australia. They are all at the best British/Australian jobs.

Only way clubs are defined in RL is by their fan base. There are only two clubs bigger than Hull FC in SL.

You missed the word 'fact' off your sentence.

Big clubs consistently win trophies,
Big clubs consistently make a profit.

It's not so much been a debate as you pointing out what a great fan you are.

Only Leeds make a profit

Newcastle united never make money and rarely win trophies. They are a big club in their sport though.
Super league is crying out for another team like hull to challenge the big two or three teams.
Like it or not rovers fans, there are only a few clubs in English rugby league that have the potential for big crowds . Hull are one of those.
I hope gentle is the man for the job. I do trust Pearson though to drive the club forward and make any changes as necessary .
Trouble is, we aren't patient because we've been under performing for years now, not just since the current regime took over .

How's your BIG club doing. Making a profit and winning trophies??

The big difference between our best and worst performances that Gentle pointed out when he joined the club hasn't been narrowed.

I still feel he is the man for the job, though. Still plenty to play for this year.

So there is only 1 big club in British RL then?

As for gentle, I don't see him as the coach of a GF winning team. Don't think he has it in him

Good post.

Well said fella at last someone on hear talking sense

Ah yes, the player who was going to be the real deal under Gentle when we got rid and we said would be a one season wonder.

Hello.

hows peter gentle doing?.I thought he was doing ok, up until he said a few weeks back ( something like) "we are going to build up in the next four matches to the big one in july,he might have just as well have said the next four matches don't matter, its the challenge cup were after!!!?