Well I would not have understood what a "dogs morning" is or was as I have never heard of such an expression. As an ex matelot I am of course aware of all the watches and the dog watches and the morning watches are quite distinct and well apart. You could have just said coming off the morning watch at 0800 as I don't think it that would have been too difficult even for a red and white.

So your ex navy and not famiiar with the 4 day watch system

Forenoon/first
Afternoon/middle
Dogs/morning
Last dog all night in

Shame on you

It's like the new cab family.

I thought this thread was about John Kear?

I think Agar is pretty useless, but I will defend his performance (or lack of) in 2008/2009 as he inherited a poor squad decimated by injuries and low on morale at the end of 2008. Whereas Kear inherited arguably our best squad of recent years in 2005 (2004 we finished 3rd and played great rugby before injuries wrecked the playoffs) and just had to tweak McRae's successful team.

I've also always had my suspicions that the salary budget was cut for 2008 & 2009, only increased again for 2010 (when we signed Long, O'Meley and Fitzgibbon) as the board realised a 3rd low finish in a row would tip the fans over the edge.

upto when i was demobbed in 1966 after 10years in the royal navy,it was always first dog and morning,not dogs and morning.last dog was all night in.

Stop thread drifting, unless he was in the Navy

That's what I said. Dogs morning was short for first dog and morning

John Kear was in the sea cadets.
It's in the book

Doggone it,how do you know he wasn`t?

thats the one

The Kearney thing is bolox in my opinion. Unless Kearney was at Sheffield when they won the cup under Kear?

The only Kearney story i got told, which i believe, was when he left he left a report for the board on what they needed to do to take the club to the very top.

They ignored it

is first dog and morning what gary hetherington gets to see when he wakes up?

thats probably because it involved spending some money

I'd heard, probably on here, that Kearney gave a team talk, after Kear had left the dressing room, before the teams came out for the final. Probably a load of tosh though.

Should this be in a rumour thread?

I heard that aswel. I was told kears team talk was rubbish and after he left Kearney got everyone together to give his speech.

Team talks don't win Cup Finals.

Maybe not, but they could go a hell of a way toward losing one.

L**ds arrogant approach to the game was what probably gave us the extra passion and desire.

Kearney's did in 2005

I'll go with cooke's try

Id say Broughs conversion

I'll go with Swains charge down

or maybe Motu nearly getting poll axed