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| Quote ="Standee"I'm not offended, I've been called worse, by better.'"
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| Quote ="Standee"considering they don't even belong in the league, they'd do well to keep schtum I agree.'"
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If this is the best we could find then I'd rather stick with Green..
Oh hold on a minute do I not need to say in PG we trust?!
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| Quote ="BIGARR"If this is the best we could find then I'd rather stick with Green..
Oh hold on a minute do I not need to say in PG we trust?!'"
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| Quote ="wildshot"Could be a queue for another Hitler parody on a famous video website?'"
i prefer the one which goes 'hitler is informed he has won a season ticket for hull kr rather than hull fc' |
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| Quote ="the artist"i prefer the one which goes 'hitler is informed he has won a season ticket for hull kr rather than hull fc''"
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Why don't they belong in the league?'"
When the latest set of licences were announcing, the majority of people on RLFans were of the opinion that the only reason Wakefield retained theirs was because Crusaders removed their application.
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Overall, I'm unsure about the Johnson signing. I can't really see what he will bring that wouldn't be achieved by Bowden or Green (who has looked good in his recent games), although he will bring some depth to the squad.
His signing means that we have a generally young set of props complimented by experienced players in Lynch (32) and O'Meley (31). We have Watts (22), Green (22), Bowden (20) and now Johnson (24).
I imagine that we'll see Lynch, O'Meley, and Watts all in the 17, with Green, Bowden and Johnson battling it out for the last place. That'll be good as it means that we'll get the best out of them as they all know that if they don't perform then there's someone else ready to take their place.
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| Quote ="Panda92"Overall, I'm unsure about the Johnson signing. I can't really see what he will bring that wouldn't be achieved by Bowden or Green (who has looked good in his recent games), although he will bring some depth to the squad.
His signing means that we have a generally young set of props complimented by experienced players in Lynch (32) and O'Meley (31). We have Watts (22), Green (22), Bowden (20) and now Johnson (24).
I imagine that we'll see Lynch, O'Meley, and Watts all in the 17, with Green, Bowden and Johnson battling it out for the last place. That'll be good as it means that we'll get the best out of them as they all know that if they don't perform then there's someone else ready to take their place.'"
I'm not sure about Johnson either. If we went for Amor and he turned us down is Johnson second choice? Surely we wouldn't have signed them both. |
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Quote It is thought the highly-rated Kopczak is on the wanted list of several clubs, with Wigan and Huddersfield understood to be among the front-runners.
Bradford's acting chief executive Gary Tasker believes Kopczak has been approached by rival Super League clubs, contrary to a gentleman's agreement not to do so, and says the matter has been put into the hands of the club's solicitor.
'I'm bitterly disappointed that the player has taken advice which has resulted in him leaving the group at this late stage of the season,' Tasker told the Bradford Telegraph & Argus.
'The major disappointment in this episode is that a young player on a good contract doesn't normally terminate it unless he is being offered better terms elsewhere.
=#FF0000'At a meeting of Super League clubs several weeks ago, the clubs agreed unanimously that they would not approach Bradford's contracted players.
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Quote It is thought the highly-rated Kopczak is on the wanted list of several clubs, with Wigan and Huddersfield understood to be among the front-runners.
Bradford's acting chief executive Gary Tasker believes Kopczak has been approached by rival Super League clubs, contrary to a gentleman's agreement not to do so, and says the matter has been put into the hands of the club's solicitor.
'I'm bitterly disappointed that the player has taken advice which has resulted in him leaving the group at this late stage of the season,' Tasker told the Bradford Telegraph & Argus.
'The major disappointment in this episode is that a young player on a good contract doesn't normally terminate it unless he is being offered better terms elsewhere.
=#FF0000'At a meeting of Super League clubs several weeks ago, the clubs agreed unanimously that they would not approach Bradford's contracted players.
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Ah well rather have Amor than Johnson.
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I like Johnson, a very mobile prop, young and good footwork. Think he will surprise people.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Pathetic by Wakefield, are you telling me that there club has never (through an agent) approached an out of contract player before the anti tampering rule?'"
Yes we did and got caught and paid a fine.
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i find it quite difficult to believe we would tap up a player when all season mcrea has bleated on about the transfer deadline and not being allowed to speak to players before that! i'll wait to see if this develpos futher or its just another club owner upset that they have lost a player to another club!
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He won't have 'signed' a contract before September 1st, the deal will have been agreed between us and his agent (which isn't illegal). He was rumoured to have agreed this deal before this season even started too.
If there was even the slightest chance there was an illegal approach, moaning to the local rag before making a complaint to the RFL is hardly the professional thing to do.
This kids good, will surprise a lot of people.
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Posters are saying AP had signed 6 players before 1st September.No name were quoted So who saying Johnson was one of those players.Hull lost S Briscoe to Rovers because he didn't sign a contract at the time with us he waited for a better offer from Rovers.I would like to bet AP is not losing any sleep over the signing.Plus I believe thing would had been done by the book .ps just an opinion
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| Quote ="the artist"they should have offered him a better contract then, i'm afraid in todays game you have to pay the going rate or face losing players'"
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wakefield are like a boil on the of superleague
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| Quote ="supercat"Yes we did and got caught and paid a fine.
Your turn now if RFL and Wakefield proove this.'"
Where will there be any proof??
It wont be on the contract (if there is one) as only a bunch of morons would pre-date it before the September deadline!! |
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"He won't have 'signed' a contract before September 1st, the deal will have been agreed between us and his agent =#FF0000(which isn't illegal). He was rumoured to have agreed this deal before this season even started too.
If there was even the slightest chance there was an illegal approach, moaning to the local rag before making a complaint to the RFL is hardly the professional thing to do.
This kids good, will surprise a lot of people.'"
Actually, I think that is against the rule. However it is also nigh on impossible to prove.
Nobody takes any notice of this rule - Pearson has been pretty explicit that he isn't, 'can't name the players before the deadline' and all that. He knows it can't be enforced, and I'd be surprised if any club didn't have feelers out, pre-Sept 1st.
That said, breaking eggs is a pre-requisite for but not a guarantee of making an omelette. |
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Never mind won't really affect the direction of our club regardless of what happened.
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Non-starter as far as RFL action goes. Johnson won't admit to being tapped up, neither will his agent or Hull FC.
As has been said, everyone does it, you'd be naive to think otherwise.
The jerk that stated AP is just buying silverware needs to sort his facts.
The number of home grown talent that has made debuts and been signed up this year has surely got to be the highest number in super league ( or close surely?).
No FC fan will lose a wink of sleep over any of this dummy spit from Wakey....
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I sincerely hope Hull FC get stung with a hefty fine on this one. I used to respect them as a club but since Pearson's "buy-to-win" approach I just find them ahborant.'"
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Actually, I think that is against the rule. However it is also nigh on impossible to prove.
Nobody takes any notice of this rule - Pearson has been pretty explicit that he isn't, 'can't name the players before the deadline' and all that. He knows it can't be enforced, and I'd be surprised if any club didn't have feelers out, pre-Sept 1st.
That said, breaking eggs is a pre-requisite for but not a guarantee of making an omelette.'"
Speaking to agents isnt illegal, you can talk to them whenever. Its only players you cant speak to. I dont see the difference myself but thats the rule atm |
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Quote ="Chet. U. Betcha"Speaking to agents isnt illegal, you can talk to them whenever. Its only players you cant speak to. I dont see the difference myself but thats the rule atm'"
This is the rule, and the bits in red indicate to me that you should not be speaking with agents. Technically/in theory.
APPROACHES TO/BY PLAYERS
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(a) A Club or Licensed Agent or other person acting on a Club's behalf shall not approach
any Contract Player or Conditional Contract Player directly =#FF0000or indirectly (which shall
include statements made to the media) until 1st September prior to the date upon
which the Player's contract is due to expire without receiving the prior written consent
of the Club to whom the Player is contracted and such consent shall not be
unreasonably withheld or delayed. Where such consent is withheld the Club wishing to
make the approach may appeal to the RFL who shall be the final arbitrator. Both clubs
shall have the opportunity to make submissions to the RFL in the timescale set by the
RFL. From 1st September prior to the expiry of his current contract any Club shall be
entitled to enter into a contract with such Player subject to the compensation rules set
out in these Operational Rules.
(b) A Contract Player or a Conditional Contract Player =#FF0000or anyone acting on his behalf shall
not be entitled to approach another Club (the "Contacted Club"icon_wink.gif until 1st September
prior to the expiry of his current contract but the Contacted Club shall not respond in
any way whether directly or indirectly (which shall include statements made to the
media) without first receiving the consent of such Player's Club and such consent shall
not be unreasonably withheld or delayed. Where such consent is withheld the Club
wishing to make the approach may appeal to the RFL who shall be the final arbitrator.
Both clubs shall have the opportunity to make submissions to the RFL in the timescale
set by the RFL. From 1st September prior to the expiry of his current contract a Player
shall be entitled to enter into a contract with a Club subject to the compensation rules
set out in these Operational Rules.
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Quote ="Chet. U. Betcha"Speaking to agents isnt illegal, you can talk to them whenever. Its only players you cant speak to. I dont see the difference myself but thats the rule atm'"
This is the rule, and the bits in red indicate to me that you should not be speaking with agents. Technically/in theory.
APPROACHES TO/BY PLAYERS
C1:3:2
(a) A Club or Licensed Agent or other person acting on a Club's behalf shall not approach
any Contract Player or Conditional Contract Player directly =#FF0000or indirectly (which shall
include statements made to the media) until 1st September prior to the date upon
which the Player's contract is due to expire without receiving the prior written consent
of the Club to whom the Player is contracted and such consent shall not be
unreasonably withheld or delayed. Where such consent is withheld the Club wishing to
make the approach may appeal to the RFL who shall be the final arbitrator. Both clubs
shall have the opportunity to make submissions to the RFL in the timescale set by the
RFL. From 1st September prior to the expiry of his current contract any Club shall be
entitled to enter into a contract with such Player subject to the compensation rules set
out in these Operational Rules.
(b) A Contract Player or a Conditional Contract Player =#FF0000or anyone acting on his behalf shall
not be entitled to approach another Club (the "Contacted Club"icon_wink.gif until 1st September
prior to the expiry of his current contract but the Contacted Club shall not respond in
any way whether directly or indirectly (which shall include statements made to the
media) without first receiving the consent of such Player's Club and such consent shall
not be unreasonably withheld or delayed. Where such consent is withheld the Club
wishing to make the approach may appeal to the RFL who shall be the final arbitrator.
Both clubs shall have the opportunity to make submissions to the RFL in the timescale
set by the RFL. From 1st September prior to the expiry of his current contract a Player
shall be entitled to enter into a contract with a Club subject to the compensation rules
set out in these Operational Rules.
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