So it was cookes fault he got depression by moving clubs.

He's an ex RL player. We're discussing his career. I thought it was obvious. I'll endeavour to be clearer in future.

"I'm happy that life has more than adequately rewarded him for his transgression".

Very obvious regarding playing wise.Cant you just ban yourself and put us all out of our misery.

I didn't watch it, I refuse to, if he blames moving clubs for his depression then it was self inflicted, if he says that events in life have made him depressed then, other than the death of his mother, he has been responsible for those events (leaving the scene of an accident, punching his partner etc.)

sometimes the first step in battling dpression is taking personal responsibility for your circumstances, believe me, I have been there. (and the drinking etc.)

You gonna meet me outside the gates at 4 `o clock?




What I meant was,Cooke is ancient history now,we should move on.

Carney mentioned the D/D and assault so nothing was brushed under the carpet.Think the depression was caused by living in a "goldfish" bowl as he put it and his everymove was watched,and he admitted he gave them plenty of ammo to get him and admitted he was wrong.What amazes me though is that no one has picked up on the Jason Smith remark and he was treated like a demi-god.

what was said about Smith, you know my thoughts on that particular individual

He was a character off the pitch...1st time he met him it was straight to the bar but taught Cooke to play the game at his pace and to do the pass you know you can throw.

Well my comment wasn't aimed at you, but by 'move on' I meant lose the hatred. Although Garry Schofield still gets that for leaving Hull and that was nearly thirty years ago.

What happened with Cooke, happened. It was a hugely regrettable episode and no party came out smelling of roses. Cooke certainly made a grave error of judgement but more recent developments suggest the club wasn't being run as well as we thought and the old regime are culpable in his departure. It wasn't a case of failing to ensure he put pen to paper.

We got the best years of his career, though, and he played a massive part in the happiest day in all the years I've supported Hull.

Oh I agree that hatred is too strong an emotion. At the end of the day it's just sport after all.

Sorry if I jumped in - I tend to speed read posts in between doing other stuff and can get the wrong impression.

I don't believe that anything will ever put you out of your misery. You enjoy it too much.

anyway, he's an ex player, and we're not allowed threads about those, and it's descending into bickering, may as well lock it eh?

Good luck with that

Wellseeing as you dont know me at all to say that....i'l just ignore your views from the radio from now on.

C`mon on boys,hugs,


whats happened to the cuddle crew?

now you see why you got thrown out!

This is the trouble with the printed word.

For instance I could say ."You are a pillock."
Depends if you are using it as


or


Its all in interpretation.

You don't know me either. Doesn't stop you though, does it?



And radio? Purlease! It's FC Live now if you don't mind.

It started off as a discussion about an RL related TV program. Guess it was bound to go wrong at some point but it was OK for a while.

the subject matter alone kind of pointed that way, although how Crooke was ever described as "super" is beyond me, other than a "super waste of talent".

My dislike for him goes beyond rugby, so I'm sorry to disappoint you. He isn't a nice person. It just so happens that he's a pr1ck on the pitch aswell as off it!!

Regardless, A few good moments then still doesn't make him a 'superman'.. Has Brough been on yet (as he won us the cup also), and Richard Swain etc... I would probably put about 100-200 players before Paul Cooke would get a mention!!

Here here.
Pig ignorant and full of arrogance. "Wasted" talent in every sense of the word.

Keith Tindall coming back from a badly broken leg and meningitis sounds more like a 'Superman'

Our very own Richard Whiting: Broken arms and leg, played every position there is. A man who does more for the community than 'he' has ever done. A true professional, a honest and very hard working player who is always approachable. A real Superman.

I don't think the title of the programme is meant to be taken literally.

If it was taken literally it would be a very short run thing.

Just Christopher Reeve who was in the film series and had that brief spell at Batley in the '70s.