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| foreward passes are a blight on the game.some passes i see let go make the game a laughing stock.
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| Fooking unbelievable , im in a state of shock
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| Quote ="yello-belly"As wound up as I'am at tossing away a 14 point lead, I think its a complete embarrassment to the game that forward passes like that go undetected. With Monday night RL aimed at spreading the word, any newcomer tuning in today will consider it a joke that with a video ref the try still stands. If it was like union and the ref asked the video ref if there is any reason not to award the try then blatant forward passes would be picked up. The 50/50s would stay with the infield officials.'" The ref ask did the ball go forward from the" HANDS "
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| Quote ="cod'ead"OK, I appreciate that I may be talking to the terminally stupid here but there MUST be a clear definition. If you decide that the definition of a forward pass is the one that led to the Dobson try, then fine, that's what we'll use. So anything that goes equally or further forward than the Dobson try is forward and anything that doesn't travel as far forward is not forward. Is that what you are trying to say? Because if you are going to make changes to the way a forward pass is decided upon and adjudicated, then you'd better make sure that what you suggest is better than what we currently have. So far all you've managed to do is convince me that your argument is, like yourself, stupid.'"
How about this then... if the player in possession of the ball throws the ball forward, and he isn't Kevin Sinfield, then it's a forward pass?
You can write whatever definition you like, that was among the most blatant forward passes ever seen tonight. But you carry on blaming your own team if you like.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"OK, I appreciate that I may be talking to the terminally stupid here but there MUST be a clear definition. If you decide that the definition of a forward pass is the one that led to the Dobson try, then fine, that's what we'll use. So anything that goes equally or further forward than the Dobson try is forward and anything that doesn't travel as far forward is not forward. Is that what you are trying to say? Because if you are going to make changes to the way a forward pass is decided upon and adjudicated, then you'd better make sure that what you suggest is better than what we currently have. So far all you've managed to do is convince me that your argument is, like yourself, stupid.'"
Why? If, in the opinion of the video ref, there is sufficient evidence not to award a try then it isn't given. If the camera angle is such that the video ref can't tell then the try stands.
FFS how difficult is that. It cuts out the rank decisions and leaves those that are borderline.
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| I've never come away from a game feeling so cheated.
The forward pass was an absolute joke.
And I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Latus' try, when Martin was down with his injury. The game should have been stopped. I'm not buying that 'he was not effecting the game', becuase the try was scored down Martin's wing so it clearly did effect the game. We were at a disadvantage because an incompetent, self-obsessed moron.
I said it would be the Ganson show. He absolutley lost us the game.
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| it's simple. if the passer hands are going forward, and the attacking team colletc it, its forward! i know a few ref's and they said the same....so wakey wakey cod head
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| If Ganson and his officials couldn't call that pass forward between them then they shouldn't be permitted inside the pitch boundary. And there was actually a stretcher on for Martin (albeit he was eventually end carried off on shoulders) but Stevie decided that playing on was a good option. Add in a 6-0 second half penalty count against and the odds were seriously stacked away from us. And as far as I can see this thread is entitled 'ganson' so it seems entirely fair to me to be discussing only his performance. There were other contributing reasons for the defeat but they're best discussed on other threads with appropriate titles. Ganson had an absolute nightmare end of.
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| just gutted tonight.feel robbed by an inept performance by ganson once again. a forward pass is a forward pass, its the downfall of our game. in my opinion the ball has to travel backwars, otherwise its not in the spirit of the game. and as for the flat pass, get rid of this stupid statement, the ball has to be passed backwards. hope you sleep well tonight Mr i am the of attention and i love it Ganson!!!!!!!!
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| if i'd have made that much of a bad call in my job, i'd have been sacked.
still nobody has answered me, will sandracock conmplain to the rfl about the ref after todays game, like he has a few times? yes? if no, i wonder why
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| Totally bloody gutted again by this excuse for a referee. The man's a blight on our game, he runs rampant with his own book of rules yet nothing ever happens to him and what have we got, two lost points. I wonder what Gentle must think of these idiots who 'referee' our game? The mind boggles
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| he shouldve been thrown off the refs when he beat up that poor old lady....any person in the normal world wouldve done
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| I watched the game and eddies commentary was outrageous, he pretty much said he will always make a huge f**k up that will change a game in you case or snatch your team defeat from the jaws of victory like bradford v leeds in the first magic weekend, but hey thats just what he does, well if thats what he does why hasnt he been fired-like the ref in austailia who made a cock up that cost a team the game-or why dosent he get set down for the next week.
Im pretty sure hes done it to wigan on a couple of occasions, alibert was stood down as he couldnt count correctly but ganson will just carry on like nothings happened, his ego is bigger than tomkins and i think the complete power has gone to his head, either that or he just gets bored and wants to screw with the game abit.
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| Cut his tits off with a rusty knife!!!
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| He simply brings the game into disrepute. From a performance like this to being p1ssed up in Perpignan the night before a game and making pretty bad comments about other referees to anyone who'd listen and onto beating up old ladies. The moron Eddie wetting his pants at the controversy Ganson creates is beyond belief. Our game is in trouble when Ganson is the big draw. Hell even Stevo seemed embarrassed. Clarke of course has simply lost his senses and is now an imbecile.
We were still poor and it perhaps puts a marker down to establish some reality.
We , the RFL and our broadcasters have years of work to do and changes to make before we will see FC doing well in a well run , fair and successfull competition. Although Eddie can't see it , it is this sort of cr@p that will drive people away.
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| It's a conspiracy!
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| Quote ="Offy"he shouldve been thrown off the refs when he beat up that poor old lady....any person in the normal world wouldve done'"
Apart from the fact that he didn't "beat up that old lady" you mean?
I'd seriously check your facts before you make libelous statements on here
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| Steve 'Look at me' Ganson will never change, he'll just get worse.....thats what he 'gets off on'.
He's a ref, he's invincible.
We let a match winning 14 point lead go....WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH atm.
"Disgusting" "Will he ring me to apologise, do they do that over here".....
The laugh is for WILL Ganson be 'MAN ENOUGH' .....your answers on a stamp please.
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[ustill nobody has answered me[/u, will sandracock conmplain to the rfl about the ref after todays game, like he has a few times? yes? if no, i wonder why'"
Have you considered that up until now, you haven't actually asked that question?
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| Thought the sickness in the pit of my stomach may have relented this morning. It hasn't! As others have alluded too, Ganson is a twerp but if you can't kill out a game 14 up with 20 remaining then things aren't great. Cost me a fooking fortune. I'd hammered us to win!
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Thought the sickness in the pit of my stomach may have relented this morning. It hasn't! As others have alluded too, Ganson is a twerp but if you can't kill out a game 14 up with 20 remaining then things aren't great. Cost me a fooking fortune. I'd hammered us to win!'"
Yes WZ, Ganson may indeed be a 'twerp' but he's a twerp for every team equally - his cock ups even themselves out at the end of the day - Saints have had their fair share of Ganson moments, you just have to accept it and get on with it ! well done HKR for sticking with it and playing for the full 80
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| Quote ="sanjunien"Yes WZ, Ganson may indeed be a 'twerp' but he's a twerp for every team equally - his cock ups even themselves out at the end of the day - Saints have had their fair share of Ganson moments, you just have to accept it and get on with it ! well done HKR for sticking with it and playing for the full 80
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Do you owe him money? Why do people make excuses..."oh it's only Ganson being Ganson" ...etc. Fact is the scoreline says we did enough to win without that shocking non-decision. He needs to be dropped next week as Thierry Alibert was for not being up to scratch. If he isn't who would blame Alibert for telling Cummings to stick his job up his ar$e.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"Yes WZ, Ganson may indeed be a 'twerp' but he's a twerp for every team equally - his cock ups even themselves out at the end of the day - Saints have had their fair share of Ganson moments, you just have to accept it and get on with it ! well done HKR for sticking with it and playing for the full 80
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I don't think he's anymore biased against us than any other SL teams. He's just part of the shoite standard of reffing our game has to sadly endure!
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| I have just watched the game for a second time and now my blood pressure is back to something like normal,my feelings are that we did,nt throw the game away it was taken from us. If you only have 12 sets in the second half you will struggle to hold onto a lead,Ganson is not the only problem to our game,Cummings is the major problem that and the fact we,re probably the only sport that does not play to the rules i.e. forward passes,offsides,ineffectual linesmen etc.
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