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| Been on the card a while this move. I don't see him as being a top fullback but think he will do a good job there and importantly it allows us to bring in a halfback. Seymour seems to be copping a bit of stick which is undeserved for me. He has allows been a solid halfback but nothing more. I think the problem with him and Horne is there isn't enough dynamism between them, they are a bit samey. Getting another half in along side Seymour will be a really good move for the team.
I also doubt Ellis and Nicklass will be here next year. We are looking at a halfback in the championship to come in as understudy and then a top half to replace Horne with Wade's money. Nicklas/Ellis will have a chance to impress now but they have a lot to do I think.
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| Quote ="Standee"agree with both, people have been far too happy to applaud Horne because he's a Hull lad, yes he is devoted and FC to the core, he's also been paid, on average, £100k a year for at least 5 years, that is HALF A MILLION POUNDS, people need to start being honest, even 2 more years at full bak he'll get £70k a year (minimum), I would imagine, with testemonials and other years in the squad he'll have take £1m off FC for his services over the years, nice work if you can get it.
(and I am NOT calling Richard, he is a good player, but he hasn't been worth £1m+ over his RL career)'"
I honestly never even think of Horne being a Hull lad whether I applaud or slag him him. I just judge him as a Hull player, tbh you are the only one that ever seems to bring this up. I don't notice any other posters banging on continually about him being a local lad.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Been on the card a while this move. I don't see him as being a top fullback but think he will do a good job there and importantly it allows us to bring in a halfback. Seymour seems to be copping a bit of stick which is undeserved for me. He has allows been a solid halfback but nothing more. I think the problem with him and Horne is there isn't enough dynamism between them, they are a bit samey. Getting another half in along side Seymour will be a really good move for the team.
I also doubt Ellis and Nicklass will be here next year. We are looking at a halfback in the championship to come in as understudy and then a top half to replace Horne with Wade's money. Nicklas/Ellis will have a chance to impress now but they have a lot to do I think.'"
I think the understudy you talk of could be Matty Smith from Salford. An enquiry has been made and is ooc. Jodie Broughton is another from Salford who could be coming to us too.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Been on the card a while this move. I don't see him as being a top fullback but think he will do a good job there and importantly it allows us to bring in a halfback. Seymour seems to be copping a bit of stick which is undeserved for me. He has allows been a solid halfback but nothing more. I think the problem with him and Horne is there isn't enough dynamism between them, they are a bit samey. Getting another half in along side Seymour will be a really good move for the team.
I also doubt Ellis and Nicklass will be here next year. We are looking at a halfback in the championship to come in as understudy and then a top half to replace Horne with Wade's money. Nicklas/Ellis will have a chance to impress now but they have a lot to do I think.'"
Who's standing out in the championship Paul?
Hill's doing pretty well over at Warrington and Hardaker at Leeds so they're must be some talent coming through.
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| Quote ="HFC8280"I think the understudy you talk of could be Matty Smith from Salford. An enquiry has been made and is ooc. Jodie Broughton is another from Salford who could be coming to us too.'"
Why would Smith want to be a understudy with us?
How big of a club do you think we are?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Who's standing out in the championship Paul?
Hill's doing pretty well over at Warrington and Hardaker at Leeds so they're must be some talent coming through.'"
I don't know who the halfback is but the prop plays for Batley, Alex Walmsley.
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| Quote ="HFC8280"I think the understudy you talk of could be Matty Smith from Salford. An enquiry has been made and is ooc. Jodie Broughton is another from Salford who could be coming to us too.'"
Matty Smith won't go anywhere to be an understudy, he's done that.
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| I am only stating that we have approached him but couldnt imagine him been first choice player for us. Maybe he will be first choice i dont know.
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| Quote ="HFC8280"I am only stating that we have approached him but couldnt imagine him been first choice player for us. Maybe he will be first choice i dont know.'"
If he comes it would be as a our new half to play with Seymour. I'd be disappointed with him tbh.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I don't know who the halfback is but the prop plays for Batley, Alex Walmsley.'"
Could be alot of competition for him, big unit.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Could be alot of competition for him, big unit.'"
Apparently Leeds interested too.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If he comes it would be as a our new half to play with Seymour. I'd be disappointed with him tbh.'"
I would be dissapointed too if he was our first choice half back hence the reason i stated he would only be understudy but i dont know this and as you state he is probably unlikely to be understudy but you never know.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Apparently Leeds interested too.'"
I can remember reading earlier in the season that Featherstone had a very promising half coming, could have a good game v hkr? don't know if its him though.
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| Glad to see Horney go to fullback, he can chime into the line at will and is a great back up player. Seymour has done ok for me we haven't lost many games with him in the team but needs to dominate games more like against Rovers. Ellis isn't good enough with ball in hand and not sure about Nicklas but think the club will give him a bit longer.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Horne is an enigma to me I haven't rated him for a long time but when he's not playing we are worse off so he's clearly an important clog in the wheel.'"
Says more about the standard of cover, IMO.
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| Think I must be watching a different Seymour to some people as I personally think he has gone really well so far, the fact he is a better left to right passer has given us more balance and is why our right side is looking more effective compared to previous years.
My only knock on him is that he doesn't seem all that mouthy on the pitch.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Think I must be watching a different Seymour to some people as I personally think he has gone really well so far, the fact he is a better left to right passer has given us more balance and is why our right side is looking more effective compared to previous years.
My only knock on him is that he doesn't seem all that mouthy on the pitch.'"
I'd agree with that, i've noticed he also gives up the chase a little to easy when beaten, but hes always done that.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Think I must be watching a different Seymour to some people as I personally think he has gone really well so far, the fact he is a better left to right passer has given us more balance and is why our right side is looking more effective compared to previous years.
My only knock on him is that he doesn't seem all that mouthy on the pitch.'"
I agree with that, he does talk but doesn't bark as other halves do. I've been impressed by him.
Fans are fickle, a lot seem to be understanding of McKinnon's situation but don't realise Seymour is still adapting to life over here too. This season is one of transition, that includes a settling in period for the imports. I also think its harder for backs to settle in to our conditions than it is forwards, Finch being a prime example, solid last year but been excellent this.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I agree with that, he does talk but doesn't bark as other halves do. I've been impressed by him.
Fans are fickle, a lot seem to be understanding of McKinnon's situation but don't realise Seymour is still adapting to life over here too. This season is one of transition, that includes a settling in period for the imports. I also think its harder for backs to settle in to our conditions than it is forwards, Finch being a prime example, solid last year but been excellent this.'"
This is what I keep saying. Halfbacks tend to need longer to settle, very few come in and hit the ground running. Add to that we have had a lot of changes to the squad and the coaching set up it was always gonna take time. He has done well for me and looks the part, they key now is to get the right halfback partner. I don't think him and Horne suited each other.
Finch is a great example, Wigan fans were not impressed last season but think he's outstanding this season.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"This is what I keep saying. Halfbacks tend to need longer to settle, very few come in and hit the ground running. Add to that we have had a lot of changes to the squad and the coaching set up it was always gonna take time. He has done well for me and looks the part, they key now is to get the right halfback partner. I don't think him and Horne suited each other.
Finch is a great example, Wigan fans were not impressed last season but think he's outstanding this season.'"
Exactly what I've been saying about Seymore. Half back is the most difficult position to adapt to for overseas players, as the example you gave of Finch. He will come good of he gets a good injury free run from now until the end of the season
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| Think Seymour has done well, not amazing but certainly done a good job for us
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Think I must be watching a different Seymour to some people as I personally think he has gone really well so far,
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I haven't seen anyone say he hasn't 'gone well', just that he's not a top class halfback. There are loads of posters on here who want Horne replacing because he's just a 'good' stand off - not one that can take us to the level of being able to win the competition. Well, to me, Seymour is exactly the same. He's a decent player, but not one that any of the top teams would covet.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Says more about the standard of cover, IMO.'"
That would be my view of Seymour. People are happy with him because our halfback options have been so poor for so long, and he's been fairly consistent without setting the world alight. He has has come in and done a decent job and hasn't missed a huge number of games, which, granted, is a marked improvement on what we've had previously. I just don't think it'll be enough to win us anything.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I haven't seen anyone say he hasn't 'gone well', just that he's not a top class halfback. There are loads of posters on here who want Horne replacing because he's just a 'good' stand off - not one that can take us to the level of being able to win the competition. Well, to me, Seymour is exactly the same. He's a decent player, but not one that any of the top teams would covet.'" Who would you like to see us realistically sign that you would class as a top halfback.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Who would you like to see us realistically sign that you would class as a top halfback.'"
Dunno. I wouldn't have 'realistically' expected us to sign Ellis, but we did. And I'm not saying we should get rid of Seymour for the sake of it - that would be foolish. I merely expressed the view that, if the rumours about him wanting away (or was it that Gentle wanted rid?) are true, it wouldn't [inecessarily[/i be a bad thing.
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