2 years younger, current NRL star vs has been, current international 2nd row v never been an international.

I can see the comparisons. Bless them

Manu could benefit from being spelled, but Ticks is doing alright at playing the full game.

And would do even better with a break as I said. Playing players 80 minutes every week will bite us at some stage of the season

Hasn't he always played 80 for us?

And?

And played well playing 80? I agree that Manu can be better to be spelled, but Tickle does a solid job throughout. Maybe with more interchanges we could have had the luxury of spelling players, but I think it's another quality that Ticks has to play well the whole game.

IMO tickle was ineffective in the last 10-15 minutes of a lot of games last season due to being over played. We'll get better out of players over the season if they're not flogged for 80 minutes every week and 10 interchanges is plenty for us to have rotation in the front and back rows. With ellis, ticle, westerman and hopefully manu on board next year they'll all be looking for plenty of game time

Agree with this. Even when Ticks scored a million points the other week against Widnes he made a number of handling errors in the last 15 minutes which were likely purely down to fatigue. We definitely need all of the above players to ensure they're all effective.

As I say, with the luxury of a few more interchanges then Ticks probably would benefit from having a rest, however he has shown that he can do a quality job for the full match so I would rather prioritise the interchanges elsewhere.

We'll have a very fluid pack next year, can imagine starting with Ellis, Ticks and Manu with Westerman off the bench to replace a prop with Tickle moving up to the front row to accommodate him.

Except late on when he makes mistakes due to fatigue.

His penalty rate tends to increase too.

It doesn't, he suffers from poor discipline at times regardless of fatigue.

It does, he flails more lazy arms in the last 10 minutes of halves.

Haven't really noticed tbh, he gives away more than his fair share.

Agreed his discipline isn't great to start with.

In your dreams !! Remember the pre season Derby when you was all spouting off about your massive pack that got owned on your sand !

That was our first run out mate, your fans also said that we would be a basement side based on that performance, but i suppose you do have more simpletons who don't understand the game than most.

See the KC Curse as struck again ,but i suppose you dont want to use that for any excuse in the next couple of games ? Well it is better than 'We are a work in progress '

A Rovers fan trying to downgrade our back row, shock horror

Right, let's get a few things straight here, this pack that 'owned' us in our first trial game, how's it doing now there isn't unlimited interchanges? Because your results as well as reactions by posters on your own board seem to think they're struggling later in games? Meanwhile ours goes from strength to strength with at least 4 members regularly managing 80 minute performances, a pack that also has the best defensive record in the league and scoring tries for fun.
So don't come on here and post your ill thought out trolling tripe, you're making Phleb look like an expert.

But but they have Paea, Mika and Galea!

I like Paea, but gimme any of Ticks, Manu or Ellis over any of them anyday! I think most teams in the league next season will be envious of our back row!

I will be interested to see how your pack do in the summer when the grounds are dry and the sun belts down...

Ah the pre-season friendly that meant so much, our first run out and your final run out.

Sure we obviously wanted a win but it only matters this time next week pal.

I love the build up to a derby.

Matters to your lot big time , its just another game !
We get that used to beating you anyway its gerring boring !