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| Think we have a good chance if gentle wants him . Pearson will want to make a statement and there's always ways round the salary cap . Not all his wages after go on the cap . Think you can count cas out , remember Morley saying he wanted to play for Salford while in aus , but money talks and all players see the pound signs .
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| A dream, but good to have a world class rumour on the table. Even if it's a bit early for the 2013 season of promise rhetoric.
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| I'd love us to sign Ellis but I'm not sure we'll have enough salary cap to do it given our other needs. If Moa & O'Meley are gone we'll need replacements. Our right side desperately needs sorting out. If we do all that on the cheap so we can land Ellis we might end up worse off overall. I hope Adam & co can pull a rabbit out of the hat but I'm not expecting any miracles.
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| Quote ="spooky"I'd love us to sign Ellis but I'm not sure we'll have enough salary cap to do it given our other needs. If Moa & O'Meley are gone we'll need replacements. Our right side desperately needs sorting out. If we do all that on the cheap so we can land Ellis we might end up worse off overall. I hope Adam & co can pull a rabbit out of the hat but I'm not expecting any miracles.'"
8. O'Meley 2012 (keep or like for like)
17. Sam Moa 2012 (keep)
11. Willie Manu 2012 (keep)
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2. Will Sharp 2012 (keep)
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19. Jordan Turner 2012
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33. Mike Burnett
I recon Manu will stay, but if Moa goes (imho) we would need to pay more to replace him.
How many players wages might need upgrading?
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| Quote ="Isaiah"8. O'Meley 2012 (keep or like for like)
17. Sam Moa 2012 (keep)
11. Willie Manu 2012 (keep)
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3. Tony Martin 2012 + £60,000 (top centre a must)
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19. Jordan Turner 2012
22. Martin Aspinwall 2012
33. Mike Burnett
I recon Manu will stay, but if Moa goes (imho) we would need to pay more to replace him.
How many players wages might need upgrading?'"
Add a quality No.6 to that list of needed players for 2013 and also the fact that we are already at least one forward light. Our salary cap doesn't seem to go very far at all
Something certainly seems amiss.
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| Quote ="FC-Steward"Think we have a good chance if gentle wants him . Pearson will want to make a statement and there's always ways round the salary cap . Not all his wages after go on the cap . Think you can count cas out , remember Morley saying he wanted to play for Salford while in aus , but money talks and all players see the pound signs .'"
Peason said he would never take that route.
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| Quote ="gazcoops"Peason said he would never take that route.'"
Good.
I'd be happy to sacrifice Whiting, Aspinwall, Turner and Burnett for Ellis, we might even need the spare 60k.
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| I think we have too many weaknesses in our squad that need addressing before we go splashing a load of resource on one star (and knocking on a little) player. He would be a fantastic addition to any team but this can't be at the expense of the squad as a whole IMO
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| Assuming we would have a chance at getting him of course, which I doubt anyway!
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| Quote ="RugbyVillasBoy"I think we have too many weaknesses in our squad that need addressing before we go splashing a load of resource on one star (and knocking on a little) player. He would be a fantastic addition to any team but this can't be at the expense of the squad as a whole IMO'"
Have to agree if we sign him fantastic, will be a great addition to the squad, but if he goes elsewhere it isn't that big a deal as we have a very good back row already.
If he was a right or Standoff then it would be different.
Would be a waste but if was in Hull's squad now and everyone was fit I'd play him right centre.
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| Quote McRae: But we would be able to accommodate him at Hull next season, that wouldn’t be a problem'"
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Hull-FC-hunt-sign-Gareth-Ellis-McRae/story-15342982-detail/story.html[/url
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| Quote ="Dave K."Have to agree if we sign him fantastic, will be a great addition to the squad, but if he goes elsewhere it isn't that big a deal as we have a very good back row already.
If he was a right Centre or Standoff then it would be different.
Would be a waste but if was in Hull's squad now and everyone was fit I'd play him right centre.'"
Could you see us signing another 6 with Horne still contracted?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Could you see us signing another 6 with Horne still contracted?'"
Seymours a six anyway isnt he so in effect we actually need a seven
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| Quote ="johnstevensfc34"Seymours a six anyway isnt he so in effect we actually need a seven'"
No he's not, he's equally adapt at either positions.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"No he's not, he's equally crap at either positions.'"
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"icon_wink.gif'"
Not a fan Seb?
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After watching both games he has played in, I've been quiet impressed, certainly one of the few highlights on the Salford game (at least in first half).
So far in his 2 games he has scored 2 tryrs and has 2 assists, not to bad.
Also been very impressed with his defence, which is a bonus.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Could you see us signing another 6 with Horne still contracted?'"
I would, if either a top 6 or 7 becomes available.
Could play Horne is the right position.
Still quiet hopeful of Ellis.
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| Quote ="Dave K."After watching both games he has played in, I've been quiet impressed, certainly one of the few highlights on the Salford game (at least in first half).
So far in his 2 games he has scored 2 tryrs and has 2 assists, not to bad.
Also been very impressed with his defence, which is a bonus.'"
He's top drawer, Seb's fishing.
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| Still early days but not a fan so far tbh. Most of the plays now seem to be going to our right which is effect our week side because of the way he plays which is a waste our most potent strike players plus we just dont look cohesive as a unit. Our best performance so far was against Warrington which just happens to be when he wasnt playing.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Quote ="gazcoops"Peason said he would never take that route.'"
Good.
I'd be happy to sacrifice Whiting, Aspinwall, Turner and Burnett for Ellis, we might even need the spare 60k.'"
You'd sacrifice four players for one 32-year-old player when our squad already lacks depth? What will happen when he gets injured?
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| Quote ="gazcoops"Peason said he would never take that route.'"
But he's not going to come out and say he will is he . To be one of the top teams and challenging for trophys I reckon it's the only route we can take .
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Got a sneaky feeling for Cas, I don't think winning things will be uppermost in his thoughts. He's won the Grand final over here and has proven himself in the NRL, [size=200think he'll just want to play for his favourite club for a couple of years before retiring[/size.'"
doubt it, ellis will be looking at 3 years on top whack...simple as....
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You'd sacrifice four players for one 32-year-old player when our squad already lacks depth? What will happen when he gets injured?'"
Pearce, Green, Cunningham, Brown?
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Still early days but not a fan so far tbh.[u Most of the plays now seem to be going to our right which is effect our week side because of the way he plays which is a waste our most potent strike players [/uplus we just dont look cohesive as a unit. Our best performance so far was against Warrington which just happens to be when he wasnt playing.'"
Like Manu, who was quiet against Wire because they had 3 or 4 men on him every time he got the ball? Oppositions teams know how strong our left side is and plan to defend that. From what I saw on Friday, Seymour was balancing it out between left and right, so the oppo had less idea of where the threat would come from. Admittedly our right isn't as strong, but I'm confident it will improve as the season goes on. No trophies are available in Feb, so lets see how we go.
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