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| Quote ="major black"True 6 try's from 10 first team appearances, not shabby for a young lad.'"
If you want a player in the lower leagues with a high try scoring record look at the afghan kid, Omar Slaimankhel, playing fb for new Zealand warriors u20's.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Disagree. He has not been consistent enough and is a waste of an overseas spot IMO. He's not been terrible - just OK - but his performances have not been stand out in any way. For a big man he's not that difficult to tackle. If it was down to man management why have some players improved in the last 4 years ? The variable is the player not the coaching team. In quota terms Obst is more valuable than Lauaki in the sense that play makers are harder to come by than average forwards.
Just because Wigan might want him doesn't mean we should want/need him as well. We'd be better off introducing a young forward who stays on the pitch longer.'"
As usual, you make valid points - and I agree about Obst.
Feel we haven't got the best out of Lauaki, though, and not necessarily for the reasons usually trotted out.
I think he made his intentions and capabilities clear in that first game but in doing so attracted the collective attentions of the refs who subsequently seemed to have an agenda with him. Penalized for even running out onto the pitch, conversely he was left massively unprotected by the referees who seemed to ignore anyone who wanted to have a go. If Hame even so much as looked his aggressor in the eye he copped the penalty, not them.
Within a few weeks it had all been squashed out of him and he morphed into the average tentative player we've seen ever since. I'm not saying it was Agar's fault, but I do wonder if McGuire thinks he can harness that devastation more constructively, and, frankly, if a new bloke here could do the same, I'd rather we have him than have to play against him with Wigan.
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| If we don't want Obst and we can't find a club for him to go to just pay him off, that will release money for the cap.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If you want a player in the lower leagues with a high try scoring record look at the afghan kid, Omar Slaimankhel, playing fb for new Zealand warriors u20's.'"
Tbh its just a name from an email an acquaintance sent me saying his agent had had contact with us about a possible move as we're actively towards the NRL for a centre/winger.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If we don't want Obst and we can't find a club for him to go to just pay him off, that will release money for the cap.'"
That's only if we have cap available this year.
I personnally think the Gleeson Deal took us to full cap, my opinion is that if we weren't at full cap we may have given debuts to some of the younger squad players.
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| Quote ="major black"Tbh its just a name from an email an acquaintance sent me saying his agent had had contact with us about a possible move as we're actively towards the NRL for a centre/winger.'"
I mentioned Mickey Paeas brother the other day, I wouldn't be surprised if were looking at 30 overseas centres.
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| Quote ="Willa"That's only if we have cap available this year.
I personnally think the Gleeson Deal took us to full cap, my opinion is that if we weren't at full cap we may have given debuts to some of the younger squad players.'"
No it's not, just pay him off after nov 1st.
If he doesn't play a game his salary doesn't count on the cap.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"No it's not, just pay him off after nov 1st.
If he doesn't play a game his salary doesn't count on the cap.'"
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| Quote ="Sheldon"No it's not, just pay him off after nov 1st.
If he doesn't play a game his salary doesn't count on the cap.'"
I think you will find that, when you "pay a player off" like that, the termination settlement is spread over the remaining term of his original contract. This means that you tie up cap space in future years in respect of a player who is no longer with you. This is completely separate to a player being declared and having a Salary Cap Value for the year/s in question. If you think about it, anything else would lead to massive abuses.
Check out the Salary Cap section of the operational Rules?
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| Quote ="Willa"ok'"
Not quite sure if you're being sarcastic here, but he's right.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"As usual, you make valid points - and I agree about Obst.
Feel we haven't got the best out of Lauaki, though, and not necessarily for the reasons usually trotted out.
I think he made his intentions and capabilities clear in that first game but in doing so attracted the collective attentions of the refs who subsequently seemed to have an agenda with him. Penalized for even running out onto the pitch, conversely he was left massively unprotected by the referees who seemed to ignore anyone who wanted to have a go. If Hame even so much as looked his aggressor in the eye he copped the penalty, not them.
Within a few weeks it had all been squashed out of him and he morphed into the average tentative player we've seen ever since. I'm not saying it was Agar's fault, but I do wonder if McGuire thinks he can harness that devastation more constructively, and, frankly, if a new bloke here could do the same, I'd rather we have him than have to play against him with Wigan.'"
If he goes we'll see what Wane/AN Other does with him no doubt. I totally agree about the refs. Ganson was at it even last week. There were some Loooooong ptbs in the first 20 mins of the Cas game. Hame comes on, gets a shouted warning about staying on too long, follows up with a double and immediately gets pinged for lying on despite the ptb in question being shorter than many that had preceded it. I remember in his first season there was an outcry on here about him being a 'liability' and 'penalty machine'. Work was clearly done to address that and maybe they went too far. If he does go to Wigan maybe the colour of the shirt will gain him some extra leeway.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If he does go to Wigan maybe the colour of the shirt will gain him some extra leeway.'"
Got to say this was foremost in my mind, too
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I mentioned Mickey Paeas brother the other day, I wouldn't be surprised if were looking at 30 overseas centres.'"
neither would I as JR's always telling us its an ongoing thing.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I mentioned Mickey Paeas brother the other day, I wouldn't be surprised if were looking at 30 overseas centres.'"
Isn't that Rodney's mate off Only Fools and Horses?
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| Quote ="Willa"That's only if we have cap available this year.
I personnally think the Gleeson Deal took us to full cap, my opinion is that if we weren't at full cap we may have given debuts to some of the younger squad players.'"
Surely Gleeson was pay as you play?
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| Has lynch pulled out or has the new coach decided he isn't what he wants....
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If we don't want Obst and we can't find a club for him to go to just pay him off, that will release money for the cap.'"
no it wont as any payoff will count against your cap for whatever duration of his deal was. so you pay him off say 50k with 2 yrs remaining on his deal then you lose 25k off you cap for next 2 years.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Has lynch pulled out or has the new coach decided he isn't what he wants....
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He pulled out of the contract.
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| Quote ="mat"no it wont as any payoff will count against your cap for whatever duration of his deal was. so you pay him off say 50k with 2 yrs remaining on his deal then you lose 25k off you cap for next 2 years.'"
If you pay someone off before a certain date it dosnt count on the next seasons cap
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| Anyone want to buy any cabling?
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| Would be tempted to re-sign Hame.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Would be tempted to re-sign Hame.'"
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| I'd go all out to sign Carney and use Horne as a utility back.
He'd be the best player in SL, much better than Chase.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'd go all out to sign Carney and use Horne as a utility back.
He'd be the best player in SL, much better than Chase.'"
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| Quote ="Standee"four letters
U K B A'"
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