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| Quote ="Tongan Mafia":yh5295zbI don't like the idea of us sitting together in the same stands at the KC, it's rubbish and it water's eveything down to look plain stupid. They should have one section, end of.
Could you imagine the fans of Celtic & Rangers, Newcastle & Sunderland (different Cities I know) Liverpool & Everton all sat together in 'friendly banter'.
We do our thing, we do ours - different teams, Rant over! For now'"
Don't take everything there out of context and I would'nt ever say that we should or would be like 'some' of those at football. I just think it's daft to say on the one hand that we are 'bitter rivals' then the next we're all sat backslapping each other.
We are rivals, we should be looking at our own seperate identities and not in each other's pockets.
As I say, I will not attend a combined team it has no interest for me whatsoever.
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| One can see what this is all about ,.................
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Beware I suspect we are all being softened up and tested because with Allam involved anywhere and that is what we are going to get.
As for working closer together, fine for some things, but not player development. You can not share or agree a split of players without conflict at some point. Having a draft sounds good, but pick one might be a staunch KR supporter and FC pick him.
Back in the day Bill Land and Charlie Watson had a mutual respect for each other and I know they where quite good friends, the boards where fierce opponents of each other but not enemies. I think our last board kept there dignity and there distance despite fierce provocation and stupidity at times. History has proved to us that only one team has tried to destroy then other and I for one will never forgive or forget that piece of treachery. The present KR leader is a passionate fan and that is both a blessing and a curse because he thinks like a fan with his heart and not his head at times. I look at some of his dealings Cooke and Mason stand out as being decisions not taken with everyone on board (the coach) and where doomed to fail from day one.
I say keep well away; we have done well enough since 1865 without there input or help and beware of Egyptians bearing gifts.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"No fussed on the preseason friendly as we already play them 3 times a season anyway.
The joint Hull team I am also not a fan of and not sure what purpose it would serve to either team or England.
Better cooperation is all well and good and I have no real issues with that. I just don't see how it will manifest itself in terms of youth development or sponsorship.'"
pre-season is a bit pointless as you say but I'd love to support the combined Hull team. Good marketing for Hull, both its teams and RL - I can see us turning out in droves for it plus the non-Hull England supporters would love to see the match I reckon. Of course the combined Hull team will be a bit depleted of British players because they'd all be picked for England... hem hem. If we don't play England then it would be a good warm up for some of our players for the world club game. Of course it will be difficult next year because Hull are going to win the GF this year so it would just be another game against Rovers.
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| Quote ="Ian P"One can see what this is all about ,.................
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so, you haven't actually read the article?
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| "History has proved to us that only one team has tried to destroy then other and I for one will never forgive or forget that piece of treachery".
Too right Ian P, I will not forget that day when they could have sunk us forever if their board had got their way. That will stick with me forever and we all need to be aware of 'the frienliness' and the knife in the back, a bit like a cuddle from a mafia Don!
If you think this is all a bit over the top, then just watch your steps.
Eyes in the backs of our heads time methinks.
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| Quote ="Ian P"One can see what this is all about ,.................
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Beware I suspect we are all being softened up and tested because with Allam involved anywhere and that is what we are going to get.
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TBF I dont think Assem Allam has got anything to do with it, think its just the HDM massaging his ego and him getting free publicity about his wealth again. Funny how he can give £1M to Rovers and say he'll foot the bill for a combined match but yet his beloved City can't afford to spend money on players that is evidently needed with their results so far.
He should reel his neck back in and concentrate on getting enough generators & pumps made to steady City from sinking in his first full season as owner.
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| Quote ="Standee"so, you haven't actually read the article?'"
I have and with Allam involved I can see where he wants to go with us and KR.
He is on record as liking the idea
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Allam-d-consider-investing-rugby-Hull-club/story-11949866-detail/story.html[/url
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Its Leeds.'"
Not for visiting fans it ain't.
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| Quote ="Ian P"I have and with Allam involved I can see where he wants to go with us and KR.
He is on record as liking the idea
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Allam-d-consider-investing-rugby-Hull-club/story-11949866-detail/story.html[/url'"
Pearson has made it clear Allam isn't involved, and that he is against a merger, as is Hudgell.
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| Quote ="Standee"Pearson has made it clear Allam isn't involved, and that he is against a merger, as is Hudgell.'"
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| Think this is a great idea by Pearson. Having KR just down the road is a fantastic resource for FC. Instead of them playing a bunch of average aussies and FC rejects we should be using them to blood our youngsters and for getting our stars back to fitness after injuries. In return (to help them from going under) we could maybe become their shirt sponsor or play a pre-season friendly (possibly for some kind of meaningless silver plate?). To save them from national embarassment we could also let them play their home Sky fixtures at the KC.
Lots of advantages for everyone from working together.
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| Quote ="FoD FC Army"Think this is a great idea by Pearson. Having KR just down the road is a fantastic resource for FC. Instead of them playing a bunch of average aussies and FC rejects we should be using them to blood our youngsters and for getting our stars back to fitness after injuries. In return (to help them from going under) we could maybe become their shirt sponsor or play a pre-season friendly (possibly for some kind of meaningless silver plate?). To save them from national embarassment we could also let them play their home Sky fixtures at the KC.
Lots of advantages for everyone from working together.'"
Well somebody has to give the youth of this city a chance to play top flight RL.
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| Quote ="downtheante"yes, but apart from that...'"
indeed, it seems some people don't want to believe what Pearson says, talk about judge, jury and executioner before the trial has even begun.
AP is in an odd situation, he works for Hull City, Allam owns Hull City and Hudgell is a sponsor, Allam has a vested interest in Hull KR, so if Allam and Hudgell [iever[/i started cooking up anything even vaguely resembling a merger where is AP better placed, on the outside looking in, or [uat the head table as an equal and trusted partner[/u.??
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| Quote ="Standee"indeed, it seems some people don't want to believe what Pearson says, talk about judge, jury and executioner before the trial has even begun.
AP is in an odd situation, he works for Hull City, Allam owns Hull City and Hudgell is a sponsor, Allam has a vested interest in Hull KR, so if Allam and Hudgell [iever[/i started cooking up anything even vaguely resembling a merger where is AP better placed, on the outside looking in, or [uat the head table as an equal and trusted partner[/u.??'"
Standee you of all people should know there is no place for sensible talk on these boards only wild rumour, accusations and general b0ll0x
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| I don't buy the conspiracy theories.
Pearson has said so many times that he's not Allam's front man that if it turned out to be true no-one would ever again believe a word he said.
And if Hudgell ever agreed to a merger he'd be lucky to get out of East Hull with his life.
Having said all that while I'm in favour of better relations between the two clubs I don't see the need for any co-operation in terms of joint ventures and we certainly don't need another derby which would probably only result in a load of injuries before the season even started.
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| You do not think this has any bearing on the current chummy chummy attitude from across the water do you ...............
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| I know its not directly linked to Pearson and Grudge but wtf is Allam going on about wanting a combined team to play ENGLAND? What would be in it for the rest of SL potentially getting your best players injured in a meaningless games that only fuels Allams ego and nothing else. Oh and nobody would go anyway! The mans a complete lunatic
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"I know its not directly linked to Pearson and Grudge but wtf is Allam going on about wanting a combined team to play ENGLAND? What would be in it for the rest of SL potentially getting your best players injured in a meaningless games that only fuels Allams ego and nothing else. Oh and nobody would go anyway! The mans a complete lunatic'"
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| Quote ="Ian P"You do not think this has any bearing on the current chummy chummy attitude from across the water do you ...............
[urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/main-section/exclusive_costing_error_forces_hull_kr_stadium_delays_1_3705297[/url'"
a 750K "omission/error" on a 6.4Mil project. Ouch, thats blown the 5% contingencies allocation in the tender out the water.
I'd also suggest that "shocked" is a catchall for a long string of swearing when someone asked if the extra cost could be "absorbed".
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| In my opinion and only in my opinion, Standee is right it isnt in Pearsons interests to merge and Hudge won't do it because of all the money and passion and downright blatent short sightedness he has invested in Rovers. Pearson has now said five times there won't be a Merger he aint no liar and will always I believe tell us how it is, if he goes anywhere near back on that no one will believe him again. Now Hudge has said it too. As for Allam no one gives anything for nothing these days!
The merger stuff however is just folks wanting to believe it, because what they are being told isn't really controversial enough or good message board fodder, however as for working with Rovers personally I don't like the idea but I can see a few economies of scale that an owner new to Rugby league and a hard up chairman could take advantage of!
The combined team idea was a great attraction back in the 50's and 60's and could be again particularly if we take England close as for another Derby IF millenium Magic is on again then its just too much and taking the Mick. If we meet in the Cup and the play offs we could play them 6 times in 30 odd games, that smacks to me of money making taking precident over common sense! Just of course my thoughts at this time!.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"I know its not directly linked to Pearson and Grudge but wtf is Allam going on about wanting a combined team to play ENGLAND? What would be in it for the rest of SL potentially getting your best players injured in a meaningless games that only fuels Allams ego and nothing else. Oh and nobody would go anyway! The mans a complete lunatic'"
can't see it being all that popular either, we get to see the England players several times a year in SL. I also doubt the RFL would ditch the Exiles concept after a promising start this year.
City Of Hull versus Australia or NZ would be of interest though...but I can't see why they'd want to take part (neither have done a proper test series for a few years now)
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| Maybe that's wht Allam lent rovers the £1 million, because of this shortfall in stand funding?
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"a 750K "omission/error" on a 6.4Mil project. Ouch, thats blown the 5% contingencies allocation in the tender out the water.
I'd also suggest that "shocked" is a catchall for a long string of swearing when someone asked if the extra cost could be "absorbed".'"
nothing that a million pound 'loan' wouldn't solve
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| Quote ="the artist"nothing that a million pound 'loan' wouldn't solve'"
but it's the Council who will own the asset.
I very much doubt the stand extension will get built, and if it does, it will be around the time of the next franchise decsions.
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| listening to sportstalk tonight, god i wish they would vet some of these callers before they come on air!
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