There is a common denominator in all of these petty spats

A good coach gets more out of what he has available than you would reasonably expect him to. Other than the odd game, agar has consistently got less out of the players he's had available than you would reasonably expect him to.

In over 3 years in charge, agar has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he has what it takes to take a SL team to a grand final win

It's as simple as that

really hope were not after this guy hes a waste of space and just wants a brawl all time

Miava was a poor player. Spilled the ball on a monotonous basis, off loaded only twice in his season with Hull, both resuilted in interception tries and only once actually used his size to any advantage.

Lauaki is a far better player than Miava.

Lauaki is an average SL player at the moment, with the occasional flash of his true potential. Last season he was criticised for giving too many penalties away, now he is criticised for being too passive. Damned if he does, damned if he doesnt. He doesn't help himself with some of his decision making. He has bombed a couple of opportunities by not passing.

Ultimately its up to the coach to get the best out of a player. He has the ability but its being surpressed by his coach

Im one of Agars biggest critics but if thats the case then how come Moa has come on so well then?

For some reason and I may be wrong (usually am!) I get the impression all is not well with Moa & Agar, at least it would explain Moas improvement

What about Manu's improvement?

I have always considered Manu a very good player

Not sure.

Moa was a bit of an unknown quantity and perhaps needed guidence. Perhaps Agar's quality is bringing on younger players. Afterall, Houghton, Briscoe and Moa have improved. Perhaps these players were always going to flurish due to natural talent.

Where Agar falls short is advising experianced, established players, like Lauaki. Perhaps Lauaki (and others for that matter) do not respect Agar as he hasn't really achieved anything of note in the game?

Manu was always a great player from the day he signed for Sharp

See, we can debate things without a slagging match

hey we are all buddies and supporters at the end of the day,

he's not an option now, no space on the quota.