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| On the face of it signing a player who never played top flight rugby league until he was 26 seems left-field even for us, but he played in the ANZAC test last year so can't be too shabby.
We certainly look to have plenty of options next season at half back - I'm pretty sure Horne and Long will get one year deals.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Long is not under contract and Obst is, whichever one it is we also have Ellis to back them up so there are options.'"
I know but Obst is not a first class scrum half and we really need one. I'm sure they can secure Long's signature if they try. Also, Widnes will be sniffing around all ooc players I reckon.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I doubt he's on the non fed list, quota yes but I don't think we'll have wasted a non fed spot.
It means we could re sign both Moa and Lauaki and still have a space on both lists.'"
He isn;t Fed trained so would count on the list. maybe he could try and get exemption, but as he left in 2008 when the rule was coming I doubt he could, the rule was there to protect players who sign contract not knowing the new rules.
Forget the quota now the easiest way of understanding it is:
You can only have 5 players that are non fed trained (I:E Didn't play junior Rugby the UK or france)
Mckinnon
O Meley
Heremaia
Moa
Thats leaves us with one non fed place.
Manu and obst are exempted for the non fed list as they signed contracts pre 2008.
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| Quote ="downtheante"I know but Obst is not a first class scrum half and we really need one. I'm sure they can secure Long's signature if they try. Also, Widnes will be sniffing around all ooc players I reckon.'"
But would it be the best use of the cap?
I understand am happy we now have two hookers in Heremaia/Houghton.
But on top of that we don't need three halves and two back ups imo. Long/Horne/Obst/Ellis/Nicklas is excessive.
I think one of Obst/Long needs to leave.
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| Quote ="downtheante"I know but Obst is not a first class scrum half and we really need one. I'm sure they can secure Long's signature if they try. Also, Widnes will be sniffing around all ooc players I reckon.'"
I agree. I wouldn't be very happy going into a season with Obst has our starting 7 he's an hooker.
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| I like Heremaia, I think he will be a useful addition to the squad. I'll get slated here but Houghton's distribution and organisation is simply not good enough to be a starting hooker, he is great coming off the bench and running at tired defences but not at trying to set us a platform. So in that basis we needed someone like this. However this to me hints that Long wont be staying.
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| Good signing imo. Im liking the fact that Agar seems to be doing a Hudds and filling the team with as many pivots as possible which can only mean some free flowing great to watch rugby to come next season. Put in Westerman, Elllis, Houghton and possibly Long and Horne and i really like the shape of the squad.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"But would it be the best use of the cap?
I understand am happy we now have two hookers in Heremaia/Houghton.
But on top of that we don't need three halves and two back ups imo. Long/Horne/Obst/Ellis/Nicklas is excessive.
I think one of Obst/Long needs to leave.'"
I think we have to judge on the remainder of the season. If Long stays fit I think the sky's our lobster - if he suffers another long-term injury then we're looking at Ellis at 7 with back-up from Nicklas. Not sure they're rady to carry us yet.
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| fantasy nrl upto 2/6/2011..
arron heremaia (hooker,NZ Warriors) - 166 points
shaun berrigan (hooker,NZ Warriors) - 179 points
cameron smith (hooker,storm) - 518 points
robbie farah (hooker,tigers) - 398
any shaun berrigan slaters take note......berro was signed to replace heremaia in the interchange hooker birth....
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I like Heremaia, I think he will be a useful addition to the squad. I'll get slated here but Houghton's distribution and organisation is simply not good enough to be a starting hooker, he is great coming off the bench and running at tired defences but not at trying to set us a platform. So in that basis we needed someone like this. However this to me hints that Long wont be staying.'"
No, I think you're right. I think Houghton has it in him but a good tutor will help as it did with Berrigan. Danny Houghton still has the potential to be an international but is some way off imo.
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| As a halfback rather have Horne or Long than Obst.
Obst has proved that he is an Ok replacement for the odd game, but now we have Ellis to do this.
Obst seems a bit of a spare part to me now.
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| And who says your club dont look at players who have played in the lower leagues, best ask the Leigh fans once again what they think of him
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"And who says your club dont look at players who have played in the lower leagues, best ask the Leigh fans once again what they think of him
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I don't think the two weeks are up? Did you try to get signed up?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"And who says your club dont look at players who have played in the lower leagues, best ask the Leigh fans once again what they think of him
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That was before he played fo NZW without missing a game and got a call up to the last Anzac Test, maybe best ask Kearney what he thinks eh!
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"And who says your club dont look at players who have played in the lower leagues, best ask the Leigh fans once again what they think of him
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Or the first team NRL team he currentley plays for?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Thats how we judge players now, fantasy RL?
That would make Kirk Dixon the worlds best winger.'"
no, but lets be fair, its a good judge mate,..as for dixon, if he couldnt kick goals he'd be turd on fantasy, wereas corey parker of the bronco's is officially the worlds greatest fantasy player ever....
he racks up 50 points a game on average, granted he's a kicker but the man does alot of graft etc...hence his massive points on a regular basis......
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| Come on guys,
How can the BOD and Agar win, if we resigned Long & Horne with Ellis and Obst as cover and suffered our usual injury crisis they would get slated again. They are looking at all options, making best use of the Cap and signed additional cover and still get slated.
Many on here are suggesting that we offer Long and Horne extended deals on reduced terms, dosn't Aaron provide us with the ability to do this and improve the clubs ability to negotiate with the OOC players?
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| Guy looks ok, found this youtube video of him earlier this season, Newz Warriors v Melbourne. He's the number 9 on the team in white, setup the second try with a scoot from dummy half and a short crash ball to send his team mate over, good sign, knows where his players are hitting.
=#FF0000No YT links please - K
Throughout the video, he does a lot of nice quick scoots are darts across the line and fires v.good balls out wide to his players on the counter.
I'm happy with this signing.
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| Just having a think fwiw I think:-
6) Horne
7) Obst (Ellis as backup)
9) Houghton (Heremaia as interchnage)
Long will stay but as part of the coaching staff and will retire from playing.
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| Quote ="smudgersmith"Come on guys,
How can the BOD and Agar win, if we resigned Long & Horne with Ellis and Obst as cover and suffered our usual injury crisis they would get slated again. They are looking at all options, making best use of the Cap and signed additional cover and still get slated.
Many on here are suggesting that we offer Long and Horne extended deals on reduced terms, dosn't Aaron provide us with the ability to do this and improve the clubs ability to negotiate with the OOC players?'"
There's no place on this forum for the like of you.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Shocking stats for Berro there, he's been playing centre all year!
Best thing we did was get rid.'"
wrong mate, berro was at hooker for afew early rounds, then switched to centre and picked up some good points, and then got injured and has struggled since.....
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| This signing seems very strange, unless Obst is moving on?
6. Horne/Nicklas
7. Long/Ellis
9. Houghton/Heremaia
Where does Obst fit in?
Maybe Long isn't staying? Widnes?
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| Quote ="Dobbo Hull"Guy looks ok, found this youtube video of him earlier this season, Newz Warriors v Melbourne. He's the number 9 on the team in white, setup the second try with a scoot from dummy half and a short crash ball to send his team mate over, good sign, [uknows where his players are hitting.[/u
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Now that would be a novelty, players backing up a break
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