I've heard all this before with Lloyd. He bought City, then Hull and very nearly crippled both clubs in an attempt to make money. Didn't he at one point want to buy Rovers so he could merge both the RL clubs? This whole saga will end in tears and it will be Hull that get done if our BOD dont keep one step ahead.

They were the true philanthropists of this City, not Allam who will probably not even by remembered in the city in 100 years time never mind having a school, road and art gallery named after him.

I said this Ian. Allam says he wants to give something to the people of Hull. Ask the people on the Ings Road Estate that are still left there if they would like an olypmic size swimming pool and squash courts to use or somewhere decent to live.

Well theres certainly one certainty in all this Standee is a Thunderbirds Fan FAB!!!!

well said whitestar... if he wants to run a non profit making business for the people of hull why not open a childs burns unit, or a large hospice or something similar where people WILL respect him ..

I can not see what Hull FC are going to gain at all if this goes ahead. A load of facilities which we do not need and an extra 10,000 seats we will not use and an excuse to increase the rent we have to pay, and he thinks giving Hull KR a million pounds is a way of treating the two clubs fairly. I don't think so. I believe the reason he gave Rovers the money is so they will have to play ball in the future if he wants the two clubs to merge or to play in the same stadium. I just hope Hull FC don't accept any soft loans or any shareholders sell to him.

It is imperative that the Council explore all eventualities before agreeing to sell. That includes ensuring the price is the full original cost of the stadium plus an extra amount for the land, and a buy back clause if his pipedream never happens or a guarantee of any profit from any future sell on comes back to the Council. He should not have any problem with this because "I don't want to make money out of sport"

I also think it is essential that Hull Fair continues at its current Walton Street site. Health and Safety issues would probably stop any re-location and it must not be allowed to die. It is part of this City's heritage. The way he dismisses this in interviews as not worthy of a response just shows how far removed he is from the people of Hull, but then we already knew that when he suggested the two rugby clubs should merge in his first interview.

Any budding property developer or estate agents out there I would liek to see what the KC would be worth now ?

£30 Million + ??????? less then the build price but how much

plus how much to buy Walton st car park and West Park ?????

Surely the open Market value of the stadium itself is limited by its restricted use?

As for a merged team, I Know most of us f.c fans wont have it, so what do the other lot think about a merged team? I cant imagine they will be overjoyed either.

I doubt even Allem thinks it could ever happen, and if he does, then he needs some better advice.

Are you not perhaps being a little unfair here. I do not know Mr Allam and I preume neither do you, apologies if you do, and therefore its not really posssible for either of us to asses the degree of his philanthropy.
Even philanthropists have egos and to be fair whilst a housing project in Ings Road woul undoubtably have a more immediate and useful impact in reallity it wouldn't live long in the memory except for of those people immediately effected. So if the intention is a legacy to the name Allam then I suspect that the sports complex would be a more attractive proposition.
Just my own point of view but in the same way that the perception on here seems to be that the views from the media are overly positive it seems to me that most of the views on here are all very negative and letting the possible downside to FC outweigh the possible upside to the city as a whole.

what upside?

How much is Walton St. used as a carpark these days? I thought the park and ride had stopped from there now so presumably most of the cars parking there are using the existing sports facillities. Whatever is being proposed will have to include adequate parking facillities within the planning proposal and in reallity any commercial venture will only work if this issue is addressed properly.
I agree that the fair is part of the city's heritage but I would guess that most people only go one or two evenings a year (possibly "most" people don't go at all - I don't know) is this enough to stand in the way of developing what could be a major asset to the city, my view is no but thats only my personal thoughts and I don't expect everyone to feel the same. FWIW I actually enjoy going to the fair every year so I've no personal axe to grind.

Maybe not soon but it will happen eventually.

only if you go bust and lose your liscence

sorry, did I say "if"

I hope not Blakey,there would be no more squabbling and peeing contests on the two Hull forums.

Redevelopment of what is essentially a derelict piece of wasteland
Significant employment opportunities both in the building phase and longterm as the various parts of the project come on line.
Opportunites for small business to ride on the coat-tails of the larger development again creating wealth and employment and a chance for the whole area to be rejuvinated
Improved facillities possibly including training facillities for the clubs using the KC.

I know the above will take a long time to filter through and in some cases may not happen but if nothing is done then we're stuck with the status quo for better or for worse

I didn't ask you what myth's he's peddling, I said what genuine upside.

There is no way he could finance the £100m investment.

Setting aside the abillity to raise the finance which is a different issue entirely if (a big if I know) the development were to go ahead which of my list of upsides would you describe as a myth?

you can't set aside the raising of the finance, if you want to beleive the emporor has new cothes then fine, I'll believe he's walking down Anlaby Road starkers

Its the circle of life thing. We may not want it but maybe the next 20 years will bring an undeniable reason for merging.
Things that are brilliant eventually get superceded by something better.

He can easily finance it.Can't see Banks and financial institutions saying no to him tbh.Based on the profits his own company made last year,the risks as far as the banks are concerned are very small.

I presume that you can't know that he couldn't raise the finance any more than I can know that he can. I'm not having a dig I'm just curious as to which of the upsides you don't think would come out of the proposals if it were to go ahead

if you believe that then fine, I take it you've not recently tried to raise business finance for a community development.

Blooming heck, Mrs B, I think you may have given Burns some food for thought! He's paused to ponder!

I'm also not a multi-millionaire with a proven track record and a business making substantial profits. I do, however, have some knowledge as to how business finance works (I'm not suggesting you don't) and my opinion is that he probably could raise the finance (only my opinion)- still intrested in which parts are myths