there was alot of dodgey descisions made, but washbrook did go for the ball. if players cant challenge for the ball anymore its wrong, in the nrl every high ball is contested, again why the nrl is better.

ATEOTD, Ganson did his very best to keep them in the game, to get them level when the game was almost over and then give them the ball with 1 minute left to have a chance to win the game.

He is a CHEAT and no other sport in the world would have a St Helens fan who is from St Helens reffing a St Helens game.

He is usually quite subtle about it like the offside in the CC final as soon as we go ahead, the Moa "penalty" against Wire last season as soon as we go ahead but this time on about 5 or 6 occasions he has CHEATED to give his team the advantage.

He will continue doing this until the RL do the no-brainer sensible thing and put an end to him reffing St's games.

Is he a passholder at the HJ too?

I didn't say he tried to tackle the man in the air, I think in his head he was going to compete for the ball, it was just a really bad attempt. If he had jumped upwards like the Saints player and then they made contact at a similar height whilst both competing for the ball then I would of said play on.

The fact is he run/jumps sideways into the Saints players legs which you just can't do.

What a load of rubbish. I guess some of those marginal forward passes he called against them were so blatant he had to call them.

You can't be serious right?

Do you only see questionable decisions against your side? Overall Hull got the run of the decisions today, you just weren't quite good enough, but credit to your lot for giving Saints a good game.

I was also told he travelled to the game on the bus with them

That can't be right surely??

Think Wolfie is having a joke (or I hope he is)

Nothing wrong with being green and trying to help the environment

The thing is nothing surprises me anymore. It's the RFL were talking about.

Next time we play Saints how about a (unbiased) ref from somewhere other than ST Helens

Im not laughing.

Sadly very true and the main reason why our sport is a laughing stock to others

if true that is disgusting

but to be fair you said Agar was a great coach and kept a straight face

well i dont personaly believe it but the guy who told me after the game was pretty convincing about it.

Think whoever was winding you up Wolf, according to the interview on Humberside yesterday Royce said Saints came yesterday and stayed over, doubt Ganson would have come yesterday as well tbh.

when have i said that

They usualy stay at the village hotel so you could be right Lyn.

Don't think Ganson was as bad as some are making out but Saints did seem to get the rub of the green, two decisions that no one has mentioned but I thought were really key ones.

Saints put a kick up and it bounces, Lauaki gets a hand to it and it goes back, Obst picks it up and is penalised for offside. Now Obst was in front of Lauaki when it was touched but he ran behind him and when he picked it up he was a couple of yards behind Lauaki, therefore he is onside. Saints didn't score from there but I felt it was a momentum changer.

Also really late in the game when the scores were level Saints kicked (Wilkin?) from half way and Meli was a couple of metres offside, he then tackled Whiting pretty much as soon as he caught it. Should have been a penalty roughly on halfway and we could either have had a shot at goal to try to win it or put it in the corner, driven for the posts and slotted one over.

Happened a few times that.

Ok then "good" coach.

Regarding the 'obstruction' try . Would it have been a try if it had been a player , and not the referee , that caused the obstruction ?

Thoughts .