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| Quote ="Rock God X"Keep the faith. We're training well. If we can raise us bar on the island and start to aim up, we can start to climb the league table. We're playing like a top 8 team, so it's only a matter of time before we're in the top 8.'"
Why do people always that word 'us'. What does the way he talks have to do with anything. Not having a pop at you RG it's just that a lot of people do it and I don't see the point in it.
Not sure Agar has ever used the term 'island' either?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why do people always that word 'us'. What does the way he talks have to do with anything. Not having a pop at you RG it's just that a lot of people do it and I don't see the point in it.
Not sure Agar has ever used the term 'island' either?'"
Because it's bloody annoying.
I'm not expecting BBC English but would like words to be used in their proper context and not as some colloquial, banjo-playing, West Riding hick sees fit.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Because it's bloody annoying.
I'm not expecting BBC English but would like words to be used in their proper context and not as some colloquial, banjo-playing, West Riding hick sees fit.'"
Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?'"
Strange innit?
When you're not performing, even the bits you do well tend to receive criticism. That's a sad fact of life.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?'"
Exactly right.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Strange innit?
When you're not performing, even the bits you do well tend to receive criticism. That's a sad fact of life.'"
I guess, I just think it's a low blow. Attack him for the coaching side of things but leave out the personal stuff. Just my opinion mind.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I guess, I just think it's a low blow. Attack him for the coaching side of things but leave out the personal stuff. Just my opinion mind.'"
Agreed and that's the sad thing for me in all of this. He maybe should walk away but how many of us would walk away from a paid job? If we lose on Friday it will get nasty and personal and although its inevitable it's not very nice, he's human after all and he's probably hurting as much as any of us.
I think like many people have said before that he could actually be an asset to the club but more in a role of an assistant or DOR not head coach but that's unlikely to happen.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?'"
Or maybe they find ways to attack the coach when his side is playing poorly?
agar = dead man walking - I've convinced myself of this today
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why do people always that word 'us'. What does the way he talks have to do with anything. Not having a pop at you RG it's just that a lot of people do it and I don't see the point in it.'"
Just to take the p*ss out of him, I suppose. Like people might mock a politician for a particular turn of phrase or idiosyncrasy. It will happen if you're in the public eye, unpopular and and have an obvious way of speaking that lends itself to being mocked.
Quote ="PAUL M"Not sure Agar has ever used the term 'island' either?'"
It wasn't necessarily [ijust[/i him I was mocking.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?'"
Nail on head.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hmm I remember Sharp getting abuse for the way he conducted his press conferences, maybe the Hull fans just like finding ways to attack the coach when they don't like him?'"
For a start, using 'us' in a mocking context is hardly what I would call 'abuse'. Likewise, I don't think you could call it an 'attack' on the coach. Unless you were being really dramatic.
Add to that, the fact that most people don't 'dislike' Agar, only the affect he's having on the club, and I don't think I could disagree with your post more.
When a person is under-performing as badly as Agar is, it's inevitable that he's going to receive a bit of stick. Sometimes, that stick might not be wholly relevant to the reasons he's under-performing, but it certainly doesn't constitute 'abuse'.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"unlike one or two immediately before him, rich has worked his bag off , put in more time and VT time etc than anyone in the game i know but for what ever reason it isnt happening at present
all we can hope for is that we trounce HKR, then get a result at the wire and [uthen Shaun does a number on his previous employers too[/u
all fans want that I am sure'"
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| Quote ="hullbg"Why would it change anything? We have beaten 3 teams.
1, Crusaders who are absolutely awful
2, Bradford, hit and miss team who like us are missing more than they are hitting. They have had 50 put on them twice and victories over Crusaders/Wakey/Quins and Cas show they are a long way off being a good team.
3, Quins, Had the early season roll that we have been accustomed to getting for a few years and have started sliding down the league dramatically.
All 3 teams we have beaten are currently in the bottom half of the league and have 3 of the 4 worst defences.
If we beat Rovers that will make 4 teams in the bottom half we have beaten, if that is enough to change things a great deal i am staggered to say the least.'"
I'm pretty sure we've not beaten a team that were in the top four at the time since Saints at home last June.
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| What posters should remember when Hull F C lose RA faces the press
Not like that Noddy( JM) He finds a dark corner to sulk
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why do people always that word 'us'. What does the way he talks have to do with anything. Not having a pop at you RG it's just that a lot of people do it and I don't see the point in it.
Not sure Agar has ever used the term 'island' either?'"
Because it demonstrates an inherent inability to formulate even the most basic and correct sentence, this from someone who is meant to instaill respect and support in his employees.
I assume you'd be happy then if your kids fail their basic English and Maths, because that is what it suggests to me, he lacks basic life skills beyond analysis of RL video. He is not meant to be a great orator, but he has barely the communication skills to be a janitor.
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| Quote ="Standee"Because it demonstrates an inherent inability to formulate even the most basic and correct sentence, this from someone who is meant to instaill respect and support in his employees.
I assume you'd be happy then if your kids fail their basic English and Maths, because that is what it suggests to me, he lacks basic life skills beyond analysis of RL video. He is not meant to be a great orator, but he has barely the communication skills to be a janitor.'"
TBF it's a bit pathetic knocking him for his West Yorkshire dialect. Let's be honest, the Hull accent isn't great with dropped 'aitches and glottal stops.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I'm pretty sure we've not beaten a team that were in the top four at the time since Saints at home last June.'"
Enough.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"TBF it's a bit pathetic knocking him for his West Yorkshire dialect. Let's be honest, the Hull accent isn't great with dropped 'aitches and glottal stops.'" Got to agree..When I was in the Army( 1PWO )I told the West Yorkshire lads I came from Ull We used to row about if it was bread and jam or jam and bread
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| Quote ="Standee"Because it demonstrates an inherent inability to formulate even the most basic and correct sentence, this from someone who is meant to instaill respect and support in his employees.
I assume you'd be happy then if your kids fail their basic English and Maths, because that is what it suggests to me, he lacks basic life skills beyond analysis of RL video. He is not meant to be a great orator, but he has barely the communication skills to be a janitor.'"
having listened to how the English language is articulated by East yorkshire folk thats funny what you said
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Why should they apologise? the players and the club dont give a flying f**k about the fans.'"
Can't work out if your just naive or plain stupid!
Just how many clubs come out and offer apologies for defeats? It only happens when a team get completely dicked.
Judging by a fair few comments on this forum, there are a lot of fans who couldn't give a flying about the club or some of the players.
In any kind of weather, my ar$e. Its those of us who have been though all kinds of "weather" who understand the situation. Just face facts, we are not as good as some would like us to be.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Can't work out if your just naive or plain stupid!
Just how many clubs come out and offer apologies for defeats? It only happens when a team get completely dicked.
Judging by a fair few comments on this forum, there are a lot of fans who couldn't give a flying about the club or some of the players.
In any kind of weather, my ar$e. Its those of us who have been though all kinds of "weather" who understand the situation. Just face facts, we are not as good as some would like us to be.'"
or think we have a god given right to be
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Can't work out if your just naive or plain stupid!
Just how many clubs come out and offer apologies for defeats? It only happens when a team get completely dicked.
Judging by a fair few comments on this forum, there are a lot of fans who couldn't give a flying about the club or some of the players.
In any kind of weather, my ar$e. Its those of us who have been though all kinds of "weather" who understand the situation. Just face facts, we are not as good as some would like us to be.'"
Andy, if we were Doncaster RLFC, hoping that Tony Banham would save us from Another Bloody Sunday, I could understand that. We may be playing like they did but we aren't Donny and we DO deserve better.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Can't work out if your just naive or plain stupid!
Just how many clubs come out and offer apologies for defeats? It only happens when a team get completely dicked.
Judging by a fair few comments on this forum, there are a lot of fans who couldn't give a flying about the club or some of the players.
In any kind of weather, my ar$e. Its those of us who have been though all kinds of "weather" who understand the situation. Just face facts, we are not as good as some would like us to be.'"
That is the most sensible and accurate post i have seen on here for sometime.Some of them make me laugh on here,they really do.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Andy, if we were Doncaster RLFC, hoping that Tony Banham would save us from Another Bloody Sunday, I could understand that. We may be playing like they did but we aren't Donny and we DO deserve better.'"
To say we deserve better I think is going a bit too far to be fair Dave. Its like every fan of every club saying their team should win a trophy as they personally have gone through thick and thin.
I am old enough to remember the late 70's and 80's when in Football, Liverpool swept the board with annual ease. Man utd had a far bigger fan base but just accepted the fact that another team were far better (on the whole).
All anyone can really ask for is a bit of consistancy from the top table. That has not happend. As has been pointed out, Agar has had more chances than Sharp, Kear, Walsh and Tony Gordon put together.
To this day I find it hard to fathom that some who live close enough to go, claim to be a life long fan yet would rather cut their noses off to spite their own face by not attending. It sort of makes the "any kind of weather" line a little redundent.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"For a start, using 'us' in a mocking context is hardly what I would call 'abuse'. Likewise, I don't think you could call it an 'attack' on the coach. Unless you were being really dramatic.
Add to that, the fact that most people don't 'dislike' Agar, only the affect he's having on the club, and I don't think I could disagree with your post more.
When a person is under-performing as badly as Agar is, it's inevitable that he's going to receive a bit of stick. Sometimes, that stick might not be wholly relevant to the reasons he's under-performing, but it certainly doesn't constitute 'abuse'.'"
You disagree with me Maybe I should lock the thread now....
It's abuse in my eyes, not the most hurtful abuse ever, but still abuse. Not being dramatic whatsoever just pointing out what I read and it's attacking the way he talks which has nothing to do with coaching abilities.
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