Transfer fees don't count on the cap.

At the risk of being pedantic transfer fees don't count on the salary cap and i'm really interested to see the research about discretionary effort given by a player to their local club versus playing for a non local club..... fact?

Yes, which is what I said originally. Is there a point to this?

The KC should be a fortress for us, it was for most of last season.

I sense Leeds and Wakey will be mentioned in the next reply

He can mention away. I never said we will I just said a club like us should be looking to win most of their home games. I don't see what point he is trying to make tbh

Totally disgaree, and if Rangi Chase is in the mood on Friday he will rip us to bits, bit like he did in our friendly

The friendly that we won?

Yes we did win it, however it was no walk in the park and like I stated Rangi Chase scored for sheer fun on several occasions., also our form since that friendly will hardly have Cas quaking will it...the points shipped past us this season so far is shocking and Cas play expansive rugby.

I'm fully prepared for us to lose on Friday night, but performances in the pre-season friendly prove nothing one way or the other.

Well I suppose you are right, we won the friendly but have gone on to be pants, and Cas lost and are sitting sweet in the league,

...the only consistent thing we can take from the friendly is Rangi Chase will rip us up if he is given the chance, if Quins can put 30 past us how many will Cas manage

I think 8-10 points in it either way, if we turn up we can win but who knows which side will turn up.

Chase is a threat to every side in the league.

Mate, I was complementing your club for making the most of their limited financial situation and complaining that our club are incapable of taking advantage of their own situation. It is incompetence on the part of my club I'm afraid .

And transfer fees don't count on the cap

No real point, I was just taken aback that you've finally come off the fence and made a real statement.

So SHOULD we be winning games away at the likes of quins or SHOULD we be applauding their efforts when they do as it's something we wouldn't expect?

You obviously don't read my posts.

We should always applaud winning a game, sport in unpredictable. Quins would expect to beat sides like us at their place. You can never just expect to go away from home and win.

It all depends on ambition really along with other factors like injuries. Rovers would expect to beat Salford away but never and injuries probably had a bit to do with that. Circumstances change from week to week.

I think that is the biggest factor. Time and again we have seen a good or spirited performance followed by an awful one.

Just looking at the highlights of Cas's match this weekend www.superleaguefans.com/videos/ (If link is no good please remove mods) Biggest worry for me is the speed with which they ship it to the wing. I think our best bet is to try and draw them into a forward battle. Some quality tries in the highlights and very few "barge overs".

Just looking at the highlights of Cas's match this weekend www.superleaguefans.com/videos/ (If link is no good please remove mods) Biggest worry for me is the speed with which they ship it to the wing. I think our best bet is to try and draw them into a forward battle. Some quality tries in the highlights and very few "barge overs".

Quote ="hullbg"Just looking at the highlights of Cas's match this weekend www.superleaguefans.com/videos/ (If link is no good please remove mods) Biggest worry for me is the speed with which they ship it to the wing. I think our best bet is to try and draw them into a forward battle. Some quality tries in the highlights and very few "barge overs".'" In fairness though most teams are battering Crusaders every week.

Quote ="hullbg"Just looking at the highlights of Cas's match this weekend www.superleaguefans.com/videos/ (If link is no good please remove mods) Biggest worry for me is the speed with which they ship it to the wing. I think our best bet is to try and draw them into a forward battle. Some quality tries in the highlights and very few "barge overs".'" In fairness though most teams are battering Crusaders every week.

Including us and Rovers, what does that say about them

I hope if you pay special attention to Rangi you will forget about Danny Orr and Daryl Clark



Looking forward to friday,may the best team win!

Quote ="hullbg"Just looking at the highlights of Cas's match this weekend www.superleaguefans.com/videos/ (If link is no good please remove mods) Biggest worry for me is the speed with which they ship it to the wing. I think our best bet is to try and draw them into a forward battle. Some quality tries in the highlights and very few "barge overs".'" Trouble is, we're also good at the forward battles too (i.e. Catalans, Huddersfield). Bradford was where we came unstuck but even then we still had opportunities to win it.

Quote ="hullbg"Just looking at the highlights of Cas's match this weekend www.superleaguefans.com/videos/ (If link is no good please remove mods) Biggest worry for me is the speed with which they ship it to the wing. I think our best bet is to try and draw them into a forward battle. Some quality tries in the highlights and very few "barge overs".'" Trouble is, we're also good at the forward battles too (i.e. Catalans, Huddersfield). Bradford was where we came unstuck but even then we still had opportunities to win it.

From a Hull perspective a forward battle is something we can usually do well. It is when teams spread the ball about and with pace that we struggle. Will be a real test for the wingers/centres on friday. Think we will be hoping for rain

everyone's going on about chase but i reckon the cas old boy westy could really come to the fore on friday. he's been getting better with almost every game and was very impressive on sunday. cas will need to keep a close eye on him

Think you'll find that's applicable to most teams. The way we are playing at the minute, who knows what to expect, we coped with Wigan very well and then could not finish against Wakey, quins game was different again, good and bad. All i can say is don't put any money on the outcome of our games at the moment!!

Quote ="hullbg"Just looking at the highlights of Cas's match this weekend www.superleaguefans.com/videos/ (If link is no good please remove mods) Biggest worry for me is the speed with which they ship it to the wing. I think our best bet is to try and draw them into a forward battle. Some quality tries in the highlights and very few "barge overs".'" Don't know where you've got that from. Terribly poor defence from Crusaders all game.

Quote ="hullbg"Just looking at the highlights of Cas's match this weekend www.superleaguefans.com/videos/ (If link is no good please remove mods) Biggest worry for me is the speed with which they ship it to the wing. I think our best bet is to try and draw them into a forward battle. Some quality tries in the highlights and very few "barge overs".'" Don't know where you've got that from. Terribly poor defence from Crusaders all game.

Suppose We'll see on Friday. You sound a little bitter my friend

. To be fair we are 2nd through playing good rugby, albeit against some poor teams. The big improvement is the ability to defend for long periods, especially on our own line. Should be a good night