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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Mods - can we make this a sticky please.
Kath Hetherington 245,033 30%
John Weatherill 211,034 26%
David Fulton 141,352 17%
Pauline Weatherill 115,319 14%
Jack Coupe 107,662 13%
820,400 100%'"
Can you also tell us who these people are - I know the Hetherintons and Wetherills but David Fulton and Jack Coupe - I have not a clue ???
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| Quote ="WormInHand"icon_lol.gif Wondered who'd be first. You win a date with a Kath of your choice.'"
Wel it aint going to be me - Even at my age Im a bit choosy
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| Quote ="WormInHand"No, but he'll have to make the announcement. Can't see Kath baring all on TV and radio.'"
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| Quote ="WormInHand"icon_lol.gif Wondered who'd be first. You win a date with a Kath of your choice.'"
will have to be the lovely - erine jenkins
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Quote ="kathy kirk"Can you also tell us who these people are - I know the Hetherintons and Wetherills but David Fulton and Jack Coupe - I have not a clue ???'"
www.hullfc.com/page.aspx?p=1032
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Quote ="kathy kirk"Can you also tell us who these people are - I know the Hetherintons and Wetherills but David Fulton and Jack Coupe - I have not a clue ???'"
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"I believe the club will now act to improve the quality of the product they are trying to sell. The club have yet to take enough reservations to warrant opening up the circle restaurant that has been filled on a regular basis since we moved to the KC.
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How long has the restaurant been shut? I had heard there weren't many in there last season. When we used to go in there were around 15-20 tables each with 10 seats paying a grand a season
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"How long has the restaurant been shut? I had heard there weren't many in there last season. When we used to go in there were around 15-20 tables each with 10 seats paying a grand a season'"
I think it was open for Leeds, but has been shut for the last two weeks. All the player intros and interviews are being done in the Kingston Suite and even that is looking a little empty by comparison with last year.
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| Gary-Kath, is it the same person????
has anyone actually seen them at the same time?
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| Quote ="kathy kirk" I have not a clue ???'"
Have YOU thought of applying for the coaching job?
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| I have stated that I believe that the board have done a good job with this club, they have brought stabilty, profit and growth. I think they have also now run there term of office as it where and a change is needed in style, I do not think this can be acheived with the current board. I think we need to inject new blood and idea's into the mix with a poor progressive customer focused management. I held the belief that the present regime have this "take it or leave" it attitude towards the fans, the fans are very low down on the clubs pecking order , a sort of afterthought.
During the John Kear " saga " they realised they had a communication with the fans problem, they did try and improve things. To a certain extent that worked for a while, but the fans forums and radio phone ins have become very spin orientated with a lot less listening and a whole lot more preaching. It became very unpopular to speak out against the club, even on here people have been attacked for not following the party line.
This will end the way it always has at Hull FC, into period of near obscurity with low gates and even lower expectations except this time I do not think the club has carried enough of its "hard core " support with it. The club is ripe for a take over and perhaps this is what this is about now, we shall see but there has to be changes made now.
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| Quote ="Ian P"It became very unpopular to speak out against the club, =#0080FFeven on here people have been attacked for not following the party line.'"
No they haven't.
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| Quote ="Ian P"I have stated that I believe that the board have done a good job with this club, they have brought stabilty, profit and growth. I think they have also now run there term of office as it where and a change is needed in style, I do not think this can be acheived with the current board. I think we need to inject new blood and idea's into the mix with a poor progressive customer focused management. I held the belief that the present regime have this "take it or leave" it attitude towards the fans, the fans are very low down on the clubs pecking order , a sort of afterthought.
During the John Kear " saga " they realised they had a communication with the fans problem, they did try and improve things. To a certain extent that worked for a while, but the fans forums and radio phone ins have become very spin orientated with a lot less listening and a whole lot more preaching. It became very unpopular to speak out against the club, even on here people have been attacked for not following the party line.
This will end the way it always has at Hull FC, into period of near obscurity with low gates and even lower expectations except this time I do not think the club has carried enough of its "hard core " support with it. The club is ripe for a take over and perhaps this is what this is about now, we shall see but there has to be changes made now.'"
Whilst there is clearly a massive problem in the current coach, Hull FC remains a very well run club. As you yourself say, "they have bought stability, profit and growth". There are more than a few clubs out there who would kill to be in the financial position that Hull FC is.
We should not dismiss the importance of those three things lightly.
There is little wrong with the club that cannot be rectified by a new coach and some success under that coach. Experience shows that a winning Hull FC side brings people through the gate. Over the years, any run of form has almost always brought with it an increase in the gate.
I can see no evidence that the "club is ripe for a take over" either. Who is going to buy it?
The reality is that the club has very little in assets (it doesn't own it's own ground and doesn't have it's own training facilities) and hardly makes a vast profit either. This means that the value and attractiveness to a potential purchaser is very limited. There isn't likely to be any significant increase in revenue from television in the near future and rugby league does not have the cash cow that is international rugby that union enjoys either.
The shareholders have been here some time and have given no sign of wishing to move on. We are highly likely stuck with the current board for quite some time to come.
Whilst I personally think that Agar should have been removed some time ago, as he had started the season in charge and the board will have looked at the fixtures and known that it was highly likely that we would not start the season well. This always meant that they would be unlikely to remove Agar early in the season. Hopefully, the fans' reaction, the team's performances and the declining revenue will spur them into action this week and we can all move on and get behind the team on the pitch once more without this soap opera.
The club is in a strong financial position and looks well set for years to come. The board's main fault has been loyalty and there are many worse faults for a board of directors of any sports club to have.
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| Very sensible thoughts HRC !!
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| anyway come a week on friday against cas at home i hope people take notice of the name of this thread and dont attend the game against cas and save your money and as they say short term pain for long term success and as fans of this great club that is what we want and quite simple agar isnt good enough hes had his time and the board simply wont get rid so i hope fans dont bother turning up and hurt the board where it hurts
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"If he did miss the game last night he should be beheaded'"
Won't affect his ability to spout spin
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| Quote ="HRC99"Whilst there is clearly a massive problem in the current coach, Hull FC remains a very well run club. As you yourself say, "they have bought stability, profit and growth". There are more than a few clubs out there who would kill to be in the financial position that Hull FC is.
We should not dismiss the importance of those three things lightly.
There is little wrong with the club that cannot be rectified by a new coach and some success under that coach. Experience shows that a winning Hull FC side brings people through the gate. Over the years, any run of form has almost always brought with it an increase in the gate.
I can see no evidence that the "club is ripe for a take over" either. Who is going to buy it?
The reality is that the club has very little in assets (it doesn't own it's own ground and doesn't have it's own training facilities) and hardly makes a vast profit either. This means that the value and attractiveness to a potential purchaser is very limited. There isn't likely to be any significant increase in revenue from television in the near future and rugby league does not have the cash cow that is international rugby that union enjoys either.
The shareholders have been here some time and have given no sign of wishing to move on. We are highly likely stuck with the current board for quite some time to come.
Whilst I personally think that Agar should have been removed some time ago, as he had started the season in charge and the board will have looked at the fixtures and known that it was highly likely that we would not start the season well. This always meant that they would be unlikely to remove Agar early in the season. Hopefully, the fans' reaction, the team's performances and the declining revenue will spur them into action this week and we can all move on and get behind the team on the pitch once more without this soap opera.
The club is in a strong financial position and looks well set for years to come. The board's main fault has been loyalty and there are many worse faults for a board of directors of any sports club to have.'"
The club are in a strong financial position because of the large numbers of fans who have continued to buy season passes and spend large amounts of money in the shop in spite of the shiite that has been served up on the pitch in recent seasons. It's like a house of cards though and it only needs a relatively small drop in attendances for it to all fall down around their ears .
Didn't rule state recently that we need 10k fans through the gates to spend the maximum salary cap? We're not too far above that figure now and another poor season will see many people not renewing passes next year. I wavered but renewed on the back of a top 6 finish last year. I certainly won't next season if things don't improve significantly between now and the end of the season
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| believe me another season of this crap and we will be lucky to shift 6,7k season passes and averaging bowt 10k
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The club are in a strong financial position because of the large numbers of fans who have continued to buy season passes and spend large amounts of money in the shop in spite of the shiite that has been served up on the pitch in recent seasons. It's like a house of cards though and it only needs a relatively small drop in attendances for it to all fall down around their ears .
Didn't rule state recently that we need 10k fans through the gates to spend the maximum salary cap? We're not too far above that figure now and another poor season will see many people not renewing passes next year. I wavered but renewed on the back of a top 6 finish last year. I certainly won't next season if things don't improve significantly between now and the end of the season'"
I agree that there is the potential for it to fail but it would require a significant drop in attendance from where we are now for that to happen.
Either Agar will start winning consistently (highly unlikely) which will bring fans back or he'll get the bullet and a new coach (much more likely) appointed which will also bring fans back.
The recent drops in attendance and revenue for the club will hasten Agar's demise but it is very unlikely to affect the viability of the club. Agar will be gone long before that becomes even a remote possibility.
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| Well at 8pm friday there were 8600 had passed through the gates, hardly any cash sales........
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"Well at 8pm friday there were 8600 had passed through the gates, hardly any cash sales........'"
I paid cash and was stood in a queue for several minutes, wish I hadn't been so patient now.
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| Sounds like its starting already according to the Rugby Papers.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Sounds like its starting already according to the Rugby Papers.'"
What's starting?
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| Quote ="Standee"What's starting?'"
Nosey parker saying people leaving season tickets on seats, restraunts closed because not enough pre booked into them. Just spouting his usual "insider" knowledge
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Nosey parker saying people leaving season tickets on seats, restraunts closed because not enough pre booked into them. Just spouting his usual "insider" knowledge'"
Well that fits in with some things I've been told, I know a lot of sponsors are very unhappy, especially that our CEO wan't even present at the game.
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| All that's been on here, Parker hasn't done much digging for his 'scoop'.
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