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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The allams will buy the KC now and we'll be in a poor position IMO. If it does happen then part of the deal should be a new, purpose built 20k stadium for us with the proceeds'"
That'll be two then, one in the West, one in the East. After all, we all pay council tax
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| Quote ="rover49"That'll be two then, one in the West, one in the East. After all, we all pay council tax'"
Why would Allam compensate you lot with a new 20k purpose built stadium? you are not tenants of the KC
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| FC & CITY Supporters will need to get a coach to your home games how ironic.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Why would Allam compensate you lot with a new 20k purpose built stadium? you are not tenants of the KC'"
It would be the council who build you one, the Allams who owe you nowt.
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| Quote ="rover49"That'll be two then, one in the West, one in the East. After all, [uwe all pay council tax[/u'"
i always thought east hull residents had their council tax covered by the benefits system
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| Quote ="calta"FC & CITY Supporters will need to get a coach to your home games how ironic.'"
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| It was stated on the radio by a council spokesman, that the Allems had not tables any bid for the KC.
At the end of the day, they do not have THAT much financial clout. They apparently are looking for ownership of the KC to borrow on the back of to extend it All joking aside, its a fairly restrictive property. There is hardly going to be a high demand should the KC come up for sale, so it doesn't offer that much security for a bank other than continued use and bums on seats. If they borrow on the back of ownership and go breats up (meaning City would go breasts up as the loan would be tagged to them) the lender would be screwed.
With this in mind, needing the rights of the KC to borrow on to extend it, indicating that they do not have the readies to hand to extend, where do they think they will get the £60m they claim they would need for the Melton project? Quite frankly, that would just be the diposit
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| Quote ="calta"FC & CITY Supporters will need to get a coach to your home games how ironic.'"
Where's the irony???
In ay event this'll never happen. The Allams simply do not have the personal wealth and I do not see how it would present a viable investment in Hull for lenders or hoteliers and the like.
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| Credit to Wire, spending £2mill expanding the HJ
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| Quote ="rover49"That'll be two then, one in the West, one in the East. After all, we all pay council tax'"
The council repurchased the freehold of Craven Park when you went into administration to stop you from going under. They then organised a peppercorn rent courtesy of KCD (formerly Gaingroup). Your East Stand extension is funded by the NHS and the RFL. Your North Stand is courtesy of a central government loan facilitated by the Council. I think you've already done rather well out of public funding. At least we pay a commercial rent for our use of the council's asset.
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| Quote ="calta"FC & CITY Supporters will need to get a coach to your home games how ironic.'"
Not for me....10 mins down the road.
On saying that I don`t think it will happen. This has been used as a plan to buy the K.C!
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Somebody needs to get their calculators out here.
KC built 10 years ago at a cost of £46 millions. Allam now reckons he can buy the land and build a "Sporting Village" including a greater capacity stadium for £14 millions more? Get real!
Where would the Allams raise the money? How many people would be willing to invest in a 40,000 capacity stadium for a team that has spent all of two seasons in the Premier League, operating from a cost-base considerably less than the one proposed by the Allams? Let alone attempting to get a mortgage to fund the deal.
Is the site the old Capper Pass works? If so, has it been declared free of contaminants yet?'"
I love it Dave - Hull City lets all support them - the only time they have had any 'success' is while they have been at a Stadium paid for by the people of Hull - during the Needler times they had the odd moment - playing Chelsea in the cup for instance in 1966 but nothing of any substance compared to what Hull and Hull KR have brought to the city. The Allams appear to have a vision but let them get on with it - Its in the East Riding for Gods sake.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"i always thought east hull residents had their council tax covered by the benefits system
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Do you know how many East Hull residents walk through the KC turnstiles to watch FC, so by your logic the money paid for the KC was wasted on a bunch of scroungers
BTW, I live in Hedon and am band F, so I apy a f'kin lot of council tax.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"
Is the site the old Capper Pass works? If so, has it been declared free of contaminants yet?'"
not quite but its near. i know the land in question, its been surveyed before as city were going to build a school of excellence there before they were inevitably relegated. if you turn off the a63 at the new ferriby junction, bear left and go just past the sandpiper pub you come to a roundabout. turning left leads onto a small lane which runs down to the humber. on the east side are 2 large fields either side of the railway bridge - coloured light green on google earth at the moment. this is where a lot of survey activity was going on - on the west side of the track is capper pass territory so its possible this land may be included as well as the 2 fields look a bit small for a full sports village development. (each field is approx 250000m sq and KC occupies a similar sized site if you include the park) incidentally the site is bordered on the east by the wolds way and a large tree belt shields this land from ferriby village
not sure if this is the land they still have in mind (the surveys were done when the previous owners were in) but this is the area they looked at previously. i know also that this land would be very cheap to obtain as east riding council are looking to develop the area. will try to find out a bit more tommorrow (even though the stadium won't happen )
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| Quote ="rover49"Do you know how many East Hull residents walk through the KC turnstiles to watch FC, so by your logic the money paid for the KC was wasted on a bunch of scroungers
BTW, I live in Hedon and am band F, so I apy a f'kin lot of council tax.'"
So your not a council tax payer that contributed to the stadium then? or indeed a council tax payer whose council tax is going to/has been spent on Craven Park.
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| Quote ="rover49"
BTW, I live in Hedon and am band F, so I apy a f'kin lot of council tax.'"
Band F in Hedon? You were robbed
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| Quote ="rover49"Do you know how many East Hull residents walk through the KC turnstiles to watch FC, so by your logic the money paid for the KC was wasted on a bunch of scroungers
BTW, I live in Hedon and am band F, so I apy a f'kin lot of council tax.'"
Hedon's posh Somebody talks about East Hull and benefits and you quote Hedon, that says it all
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| The council are broke and need the money if it is sold the money could be used for front line services instead of laying off over a thousand people so who do you think cares about the kc being owned by the Allams the tax payer wont.
It only affects the supporters of both clubs that's it I am sure the rest of the council tax payers would rather have the money put to better use.
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| Any money the council got for the sale of the KC can not be used to bolster the local tax or be used to keep schools/day centres or support sod all. It has to be either held in an account and some/all of spend on capital projects, so the money could be used say building something else we could sell off cheap at a later date.
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| Quote ="calta"The council are broke and need the money if it is sold the money could be used for front line services instead of laying off over a thousand people so who do you think cares about the kc being owned by the Allams the tax payer wont.
It only affects the supporters of both clubs that's it I am sure the rest of the council tax payers would rather have the money put to better use.'"
People not in possession of even the faintest inkling of the facts about the KC should probably avoid commenting on the issue, lest they make themselves appear foolish.
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| We are talking about the council here so foolish is top of there agenda think now regret later.
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| Quote ="the artist"not quite but its near. i know the land in question, its been surveyed before as city were going to build a school of excellence there before they were inevitably relegated. if you turn off the a63 at the new ferriby junction, bear left and go just past the sandpiper pub you come to a roundabout. turning left leads onto a small lane which runs down to the humber. on the east side are 2 large fields either side of the railway bridge - coloured light green on google earth at the moment. this is where a lot of survey activity was going on - on the west side of the track is capper pass territory so its possible this land may be included as well as the 2 fields look a bit small for a full sports village development. (each field is approx 250000m sq and KC occupies a similar sized site if you include the park) incidentally the site is bordered on the east by the wolds way and a large tree belt shields this land from ferriby village
not sure if this is the land they still have in mind (the surveys were done when the previous owners were in) but this is the area they looked at previously. i know also that this land would be very cheap to obtain as east riding council are looking to develop the area. will try to find out a bit more tommorrow (even though the stadium won't happen
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There's also a big Waste disposal plant down there with all the lovely smells eminating ,I know i work there
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| Hopefully........Hull City will move to Milton Keynes, cos that seems to be the way soccer works these days (See Wimbledon)
THEN....... The KC will be ours and be subsidised by some real bitchin' gigs that will make the Stadium the premier concert hotspot. Ohhhh I can see it now, no more skinny turf plouging wannabe soccer superstars ruining the pitch and no more threat of our season being interfered with by the building of extra seats to house the army of 'add-ons' that the Tigers seem to have aquired.
Bring it on
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