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| I really can't believe people are defending his action. Fans have made there opinion known, if he wants to make his known they are ways about it. Through interviews , or going to the rag.
If this was done by Dowes everyone on here would be going mentle, but because its ogre "its ok".
I don't care how good he is, he is a PROFESSIONAL sportsman and IMO should be disciplined for his actions.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"You know that's 3 wins in our last 11 games don't you?'"
8 of those games were last season when we finished 6th, we must have had a good winning run before that.
Why do people harp on about last season losses.
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| Quote ="Arthur Body"For a start i didn't see what Shrek did but if he did i'd shake his hand.
We've had 3 games against 3 top sides its a marathon not a sprint. Ok Agars made mistakes and some strange interchanges but banners like that won't get us anywhere. 9 times out of 10 people who protest against the coach in this way have been going to the game for 5 minutes.'"
I've been going for years. I wanted rid last season. 3 games in we are still playing the same garbage rugby that won us nothing. Boring, uninspiring play, poor tactical decisions. It's not 3 games in, he's had the whole of last season and nowt's improved, or is apparently doing so.
Fact is, if O'Meley did flick the V's at the fans, he should be disciplined. Unacceptable under any circumstances, and I suspect he'll regret it tomorrow. The players may like Agar, but the fans are turning on him like it or not.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Whilst Ogre was wrong to flick the V's he and the side had just given their all away to a side tipped to compete for the GF and narrowly lost. The last thing you want is the fans moaning and chanting about the coach. He should not have done it but it was probably a mixture of frustration and passion.
I have no issues with him over it.'"
That would be my take on it as well. The OP is a huge overreaction.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I guess that puts to bed any question of whether Ogre rates Agar or not.'"
And replaces it with why?
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| Quote ="arliebird"cant wait for next week i expect to see alot more banners so after another loss next week after the game dont expect the players to come round clapping us fans expect 17 players sticking 2 fingers up at us lol'"
My thoughts exactly...He is a fantastic player but a complete t0sser for his actions today!"
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Ok so even if you (ludicrously) think O'Meley was morally entitled to do that...
What if the fans he did it to came onto the pitch and confronted him? He'd be blameless for that would he?'"
It's not a question of entitlement to do stuff. The level of acrimony that surrounds Hull FC at the moment is at fever pitch. I put an alternative view about this on here and get told bollox. It seems to me that fans think they are the only ones who are allowed to have a view. All I'm saying is as the acrimony and hatred creeps into the situation things like this will happen. Don't be surprised by it.
Oh and if fans encroach on the pitch they should be rounded up and banned for life to answer your contrived question.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"And replaces it with why?'"
That would be my first choice.
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| Never saw him flick the V's to be honest. Yea he was waving his arms, but he was telling them to take the banner down. Obviously wasn't happy at all but the fans chanting 'one Mark O'Meeley' (?) obviously agreed with him. Maybe reading into his reaction too much but would this suggest the roumors of problems between the players and coach are wrong?
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| Quote ="pmarrow"I really can't believe people are defending his action. Fans have made there opinion known, if he wants to make his known they are ways about it. Through interviews , or going to the rag.
If this was done by Dowes everyone on here would be going mentle, but because its ogre "its ok".
I don't care how good he is, he is a PROFESSIONAL sportsman and IMO should be disciplined for his actions.'"
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| Well did he or not?
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| So it turns out he may not have actually done it after all... what a surprise!...
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"eusa_clap.gif
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| Clubs a ing shambles. If Ogre and Fitz think things are great then perhaps they should off with Agar too.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"8 of those games were last season when we finished 6th, we must have had a good winning run before that.
Why do people harp on about last season losses.'"
Are you serious? We changed a lot of personel last season. Eventually other teams figured us out hence our poor form towards the end of the season and the start of this season. To claim anyone can only base their opinion of Agar based on the 3 games this season is ridiculous in the extreme.
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| He told them to take it down and they did look pretty shocking the people with the banner
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"It's not a question of entitlement to do stuff. The level of acrimony that surrounds Hull FC at the moment is at fever pitch. I put an alternative view about this on here and get told bollox. It seems to me that fans think they are the only ones who are allowed to have a view. All I'm saying is as the acrimony and hatred creeps into the situation things like this will happen. Don't be surprised by it.
Oh and if fans encroach on the pitch they should be rounded up and banned for life to answer your contrived question.'"
You haven't answered my 'contrived' question. I quite agree that any supporter who had come on to the pitch should have been banned for life, but I asked you if O'Meley should have faced any punishment?
You can't seriously think that he shouldn't?
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| Quote ="Pookie"So it turns out he may not have actually done it after all... what a surprise!...'"
Its unlike certain members of this board to over react.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Are you serious? We changed a lot of personel last season. Eventually other teams figured us out hence our poor form towards the end of the season and the start of this season. To claim anyone can only base their opinion of Agar based on the 3 games this season is ridiculous in the extreme.'"
I never said base it on 3 matches, you have three years to choose from. The point is we have lost 3 from 3. All this thing about last seasons matches is ridiculous to me.
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| So will all the outraged posters demanding Ogre's head on a pike be on here posting apologies if it turns out he did nothing? Because it sounds more and more like a huge mistake.
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| Quote ="RichieFC86"Maybe reading into his reaction too much but would this suggest the roumors of problems between the players and coach are wrong?'"
Very likely - but some people make stuff up and then are in complete uproar if/when a player reacts to it in a way they don't like. Laughable really.
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| The fact is the stupid fans with the banner won't have a clue with whats going on behind the scenes.
Im not sticking up for Agar as i would like him to leave/sacked but so many of our "stars" need babysitting outside of the game. Obviously Shrek had just been involved in a tough game and he's done it in the heat of the moment and will appologise tomorrow.
Its up to our "stars" to stand up and be counted, not trying to split the squad up. The only ones who are standing up are the likes of Shrek, Fitz, Whiting and Briscoe. The rest are to bothered about drama away from the game and only think about Hull FC on game days.
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| Quote ="Kosh"So will all the outraged posters demanding Ogre's head on a pike be on here posting apologies if it turns out he did nothing? Because it sounds more and more like a huge mistake.'"
Some of the fans reactions just recently are ridiculous imo.
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