Been done to death. I'm right, most know it and the rest will soon admit it

The only thing that did for Hodgson was idiot fans not having the patience to give him a chance, nor the nouse to see what a tough job he had to do. Now that 'King' Kenny's inherited the same bunch of no-marks of a squad, suddenly the same fans are magically realising it's the player's that are the issue.

Rarely do I think I've seen anyone be so unfairly dumped on from so great a height by fans than Roy Hodgson, he deserved so much better.

And will carry on been done to death as this thread proves,the team havent even kicked a ball yet,ahh well last seasons tally of agar out threads will take hell of a lot of beating

He'll need to last 'til the end of the season to even have a chance.

it's pretty quiet at the moment,as jake is awaiting everyones subscription money to the agar out club

We play some of the most mind numbing rugby known to man, our points scored tally for 2010 shows this. The only possible light for Agar for me is that after successive seasons in decline maybe last year was just a case of consolidation and stopping the rot and making our way further up the table at all costs, and this season with us going in the right direction we open up and try and score points. That's only based on blind optimism though, and that wasn't even to make me renew my season ticket, the first time since 98.

aslong as you realise, this is not an "AGAR OUT" thread, as i actualy wanted in charge and still want him to be head coach.

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Now you have done it!

Yeah, because that's all that matters isn't it? I'm sure he doesn't care about anything else like being publicly criticised and blamed for the shortcomings caused by the previous regime (who probably pocketed a hell of a lot more BTW).

He won`t be the first to be dumped without given a chance though mate.
The Scousers had it in for him before he even arrived.

My point exactly. They never gave him a chance and seemed to refuse to see what a mess Benitez had made for him to sort out. Now that it's Dalglish they'd have to criticise though, they're changing their minds.

Liverpool chay can take place on other sports please, not on here.

So Agar............

never said it was on your part,but it will turn into one thats for sure

Sorry,slapped wrist accepted.

I think this season is the acid test for Agar from the fans point of view, the board are good at bringing up excuses for failings tho. He will be given every chance and as much time as he asks by this board simply because he is a "yes man" and won't cause the board any hassle. I've put the case to James Rule (on the phone and in email) on 3 occasions that Richard Agar will never be a World class coach and F.C. fans deserve nothing less, all I got back was blind faith and spin. Make no mistake this board have every faith in Richard Agar to deliver and he is a million miles from being shown the door.

Did you really expect Rule to say "Oh were not too sure about Rich, nice lad and everything but we are not sure he is up to the job" it just isn't the professional way to act. Rule is there to do a job and one of those jobs is to show that everything is good at the club regardless of the reality.

What kind of different approach would have conjured up a quota spot that we didn't have?

And you know this how, exactly?

The Rovers/Cotonou approach? Get Berro a European passport?

Mid season? In time to sign someone that other clubs could sign right away?

Be reasonable.

But that's just it isn't it , we're never prepared , we wait until the "unexpected" happens (injuries , discipline issues , players deciding they want out etc ) and have no plan B. The reason for that is , as far as recruitment and balance of the squad , we've had no plan A for years! If we go as we are now this season then the unexpected could be injuries to our half backs or hooker , Houghton having a second season syndrome , Nicklass not being up to it , etc etc. I hope that everything works out god knows we're due some luck , but what's the plan if it doesn't? Have we got anything up our sleeves? It's same old same old and is unreasonable for the club to operate like this.

To be honest I'd forgotten that this was about Dobson so I do't disagree but it was the general point I was making that we should be aware of and be prepared to deal with things as they develop and not wring our hands when they happen. We should make it our business to know all of the rules and ruthlessly exploit any gaps or loopholes. We seem to be "unlucky" with these sort of things whereas other clubs don't.