Long isnt a miracle worker he wasn't at Saints either. He did however have a dominant pack , centres and second rowers who could run good lines as well as stand offs who can actually create opportunities themselves .


Dobson could have played for Hull last night and Long for Rovers, the result would still be the same.

Exactly right mate. Well said, best post re Long and who'd have thought it'd come from you



People clearly forget the fact that didn't do it all at Saints on his own.

The reason we won was because we had a great scrum half/stand off partnership.I for one am glad Morgan has stuck with Murrell at stand off after trying out various players in that position this season.They kicked Hull to death from the first whistle,and that was missing from Hull.

Have to say I agree, I think our passing and distribution and support play (lack thereof) was the issue. That and a distinct lack of passion and intensity.

Yes it would, we missed 42 tackles. If you'd have coupled that with the field position that the kicking games of Murrell and Dobson served up.

Losing Hall early doors was obviously a massive blow as the responsibility fell on the shoulders of an unfit 33 year old.

If only Tansey wasn't mental

unfortunately, he is, stark, raving certifiably bonkers.

More a young egotistic !!

I would get rid end of!!

send him to coventry,sorry crusaders so he can join up with thacks and lee.

Although I'm an FC supporter, I live in Chester, and end up attending Knowsley Road with Saints-supporting friends as often as the KCS. Regarding Long, I think it's broadly true that it was principally the term of the deal offered by Hull that swayed him. But as to the money on offer in Yorkshire versus that in Wigan, whatever Sean's version of events, ask yourself whether there was ever a chance of him seriously competing with Tommy Leuluai to be the starting No 7. He's been in the game long enough not be delusional about such things. Having watched him for several years at Saints, let me say that one aspect of his performances which became as apparent as any other week in, week out, was that his kicking game, place and open field, had degenerated to the point of at times becoming almost a liabilty. Not a secret on Merseyside, and should have been picked up by the deal-doers at the KCS.

My problem with Sean and Richard Horne is not that they're our first-choice partnership in the halves. There's certainly quality and experience in abundance there. It's more the naivity of thinking an increasingly injury-prone almost 35-year old player, and No 6 whose health has unfortunately been less than ideal in recent times, are the stuff on which the prospects of a team as ambitious as Hull FC should be based. And if the directors and the coach in their collective wisdom felt that such a risk was acceptable, to at least fail to have the safety net of capable reserve players waiting to step into the breach should the probable happen, could be argued to be little more that negligent.

A final thought. I don't decry the quality of our overseas acquisitions this season. Ogre and Fitz have been first-class. But if you were going to build a team from scratch, and salary-cap restriction meant that money was tight, and you clearly thought that you needed a new scum-half, which position would you start with? Brian Noble had six weeks to assemble a team at Wrexham, and brought in Michael Witt.

THey've both been released by Crusaders.

not surprising!!!! tommy lee will probably end up at wakey and thacks at york

Or they will be unveiled as part of a treble signing for you lot along with Cookie

east hull pubs could do with the extra trade,so the next port of call................

same saints that offered him a years contract was it??

long has been a disappointment for me. Even when he has played he's been average at best most of the time. I know his season has been (very surprisingly, didn't see that coming) blighted by injury, but other than the 2 saints games he's been fairly anonymous. May have a lot to do with the lack of quality around him and the way we play the game, however I have to say i expected more. On Saturday night he should have been demanding the ball and directing play when we had all of those PTB's in their 20 but he was stood out of the way most of the time

Or he did want the ball but it never went to him?

mixed bag from him this season imo, hopefully he will have a good last season playing,

All match? Unlikely

He was very poor on Saturday night. All he did was pass the ball along the line, hardly ran with it at all and his kicking game was poor. Very disappointing.

Perhaps his poor performance was down to him being rusty having played only one game in months, you can't just turn form on.

Well mate, I think that is as good a first post as I have ever read.

I thought he played much better against Leeds than he did against Rovers.

Tommy's signed a 2 year deal with wakey

Longy had nothing to play behind....pack never got on top as expected. Then the No.6 they have trained with all week drops to fullback......didn't help. Although you have to cater for those eventuallities.
The disappointing performance was right across the board not just Long!

Phew.