I take the point regarding injuries but he is under contract and won;t be gotten rid of.

We are looking for a 6/7 for next offseason from overseas, RH and SL could both go. However not next season.

no but when you look at rovers performance tonight they showed the hunger and togetherness that we dint have. players like murell ect arnt that good but they were a whole lot better then say horne. maguire at wigan has got the best out of his players at wigan even tho the same team finished 5th last year. the players weve got and considering we spend at the maximum on the cap then we should be doing a whole lot better

im not denying that he's under contract but he must be released when his contract expires, same as long......

Which was that then?

well why cant we reduce his wages when his contracts comes to an end if he dont like it then he can go but untill he starts perfroming to earn the big money then theres no option but to reduce the salary hes on or to just let him go. you cant just keep a player on big money becasue of what hes done in the past for the club, he has to start performing simple as. as for tansey id let him go dont care how good they are if the club dosent stand by the code of conduct then what does that say

When his contract comes to an end we might get rid altogether? However we are talking about next season.

well yeh for next season there isnt much we can do hes contracted but once his contract is up then the most i would offer him would be a reduced wage as a squadplayer

50% of which does not count on the cap,so a reduced deal,still at 50% might not be a bad thing,if he's prepared to become a backup 6 or 1.

So what are you suggesting?
That we simply shrug our shoulders and say "We're stuck with what we have, there's no opportunity for change" and just leave it at that, meandering along in a never ending circle.

Or have you decided that mid table mediocrity is our level and we cannot change the situation, so we should just like it and lump it. Where's the ambition in that.

rovers first try was a joke he was well offside.the ref should have gone to the video ref.result .no try .offside. end of

Yeamo becomes a 50% eligible player in the next year or two which IMO makes Horne a much less valuable asset.

True.

I'd bin yeamo as well. If all he's got in his locker are a few big hits in defence, that speaks volumes about his attacking ability. Last week, he couldn't hold onto a ball 2m from the Leeds try line!

are teams allowed more than one player operating at a 50% reductionon the cap due to 10 years service??

If I was in a brutal mood (which funnily enough, I am right now) it would be easier to name the players who I would keep.

Specifically, Fitzgibbon, O'Meley, Manu, Whiting, Briscoe & Houghton are the only members of the established first team squad who I would unreservedly keep. The rest (for various reasons) just don't bring enough to the table often enough. From the coaching staff, I'd keep Webster and no more.

But, as you say, this is just an hypothetical question. The harsh reality is, it's going to take some time to bulid a squad capable of beating the best. Essentially we're stuck with what we already have in the short term.

=#FF0000You're a disgrace with comments like that, banned! - PM

IMO all you fans deserve a lot better than the inadequacy served up by your board at the moment.

Thanks for your honesty, your lot are undoubtedly Hull's top dogs now it just frustrates me that we don't even try to compete, it's obvious to anyone that Agar is as bright as a 40w bulb. You deserve to laugh at us all you can, but gladly some of you can empathise with what it must feel like to have such an utter buffoon running your club. It's particularly sad that our esteemed board and closer to home some of our 'knowledgeable' moderators and posters on here try to pretend otherwise in selfish efforts to save face due to what they have said over the course of the season.

Shame on them.

The 11 year rule on salary cap is not "50%". It is a reduction of £50,000 per club regardless of the number of players who qualify.

From next season Yeaman comes under this rule.

Release him now and we still get to pay his wages which will also still count on the cap. Not clever business really, is it?

I'd be quite surprised if we offered him a new deal at the end of next season unless he has an absolute stormer next year.

The biggest piece of dead wood at the club is teh coach. Bin that first

They can have more than one player, but the 50% reduction is capped at 50K total IIRC.

for me this situation is summed up by the following question, how many players in our squad would get into other teams like saints, wigan, wire, leeds, kr or hudds i.e the teams we want to be competing with? O'meley, Houghton, Briscoe, and possibly Manu and Fitz, to sumise, we are a very average team ...at best and in honesty i believe we've over achieved this season by finishing 6th. So long as we keep signing players like radford for 2 years and Yeaman for 3 we'll never move on. I fear the same will happen with Horne next year when his contract his up, great guy and a loyal servant but if we want to move on the club have to show a ruthless streak.

Didn`t know you felt that way.

was saying at the open day going bk home to be a Plumber