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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Oh. How touchy.
I've never once asked you to change your opinion. You are as entitled to yours as I am to mine. Just as I'm entitled to debate it as robustly as I see fit. I merely asked you a question - do you think Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Wire or Hudds would be interested in Hall if he became available?'"
A english centre with potential......they should be.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"A english centre with potential......they should be.'" Really? An English centre who can't get in to a Hull FC team with injuries?
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| Quote ="fc baldy"A english centre with potential...'"
Or, alternatively, an English centre who has made 60-odd first team appearances for a club that hasn't done too well over the past few seasons and has failed to cement a regular starting place despite a massive injury list.
Quote ="fc baldy"...they should be.'"
Nice dodge. Do you think any of them [iwould[/i be?
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Oh. How touchy. '"
He is a bit tonight. Disappointed that Briscoe had a good game, no doubt.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Really? An English centre who can't get in to a Hull FC team with injuries?'"
Can he play prop?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He is a bit tonight.
Disappointed that Briscoe had a good game, no doubt.
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How would i know if he did as i didnt go........Oh so Briscoe is open to critism then....earlier in the season he was making mistakes with Hall but nothing was said about him....he is going to be a hell of a winger but he does need to work on positional play as he does get caught out...im never dissapointed when players do well and the team wins.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"How would i know if he did as i didnt go........Oh [uso Briscoe is open to critism then.[/u...earlier in the season he was making mistakes with Hall but nothing was said about him....he is going to be a hell of a winger but he does need to work on positional play as he does get caught out...im never dissapointed when players do well and the team wins.'"
Won't hear a word against him.
Was a tough game today actually - the swirling wind was vicious and I was a bit worried about him under the bomb but he did pretty well.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Can he play prop?'" Calderwood's been out for most of the season.
Nobody else would want him except the bottom half teams, he's not good enough consistantly and Whiting shows him up completely on how to perform no matter were you're played.
[size=50Stand off for 20 mins today doesn't count![/size
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He is a bit tonight.
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Must be devastated that we won then. Our league position at this stage of the season makes his signature look totally ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Must be devastated that we won then. Our league position at this stage of the season makes his signature look totally ridiculous.'"
Not to mention missing James Roby off O'Meley's bitched list.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Must be devastated that we won then. Our league position at this stage of the season makes his signature look totally ridiculous.'"
Shut up daft lad.......loving the fact we are 4th and as for signature.....i cant be d to alter it but i will do now just for you.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Calderwood's been out for most of the season.'"
And Turner has been in and out of the side before he finally got it together.
Quote ="east hull FC fan"[size=50Stand off for 20 mins today doesn't count![/size'"
He'll come good there if he gets a full game or two.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Shut up daft lad.......loving the fact we are 4th and as for signature.....i cant be d to alter it but i will do now just for you.'"
Touchy. Again.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not to mention missing James Roby off O'Meley's bitched list.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Oh. How touchy.
I've never once asked you to change your opinion. You are as entitled to yours as I am to mine. Just as I'm entitled to debate it as robustly as I see fit.=#0000FF I merely asked you a question - do you think Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Wire or Hudds would be interested in Hall if he became available?'"
Is this the new standard by which we judge our players?
Best get rid of most of them then, because I reckon there's only a handful who would interest those clubs.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"And Turner has been in and out of the side before he finally got it together.
He'll come good there if he gets a full game or two.'"
Whiting to stand off and Hall to wing....its the future i tell thee
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| Quote ="Kosh"Is this the new standard by which we judge our players?
Best get rid of most of them then, because I reckon there's only a handful who would interest those clubs.'"
Tansey
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I reckon any of the above would attract some interest from those clubs provided they had a need to recruit in their relevant positions. Long would have been one of them too if he wasn't crocked.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Whiting to stand off and Hall to wing....its the future i tell thee
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I wouldn't object to that in the short term. But like I said earlier, if we're going to improve we have to lose some of our current players and sign better ones. If we re-sign everyone, we'll just stay the same. Of all the players in the first team squad, I'd prefer to see Hall move on than any of the others. Followed by Washbrook. Not because I think they're [ibad[/i players, just that they're not [igood enough[/i if we want to be genuine contenders for silverware.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Tansey
Whiting
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I reckon any of the above would attract some interest from those clubs =#0000FFprovided they had a need to recruit in their relevant positions. Long would have been one of them too if he wasn't crocked.'"
A new condition? How desperate a need are we talking here? Any other conditional modifiers you'd like to add?
Yeaman and Whiting have no place on that list IMO. Depending on what you count as Whiting's position. Berrigan would be borderline, as would Lauaki.
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| Quote ="Kosh"A new condition? How desperate a need are we talking here? Any other conditional modifiers you'd like to add?
Yeaman and Whiting have no place on that list IMO. Depending on what you count as Whiting's position. Berrigan would be borderline, as would Lauaki.'" Yeaman was courted by Leeds before he re-signed.
Though i do think that his argument is flawed somewhat, given G. Horne has ended up at Hudds.
But Craig Hall is NOT good enough.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Yeaman was courted by Leeds before he re-signed.'"
Seems unlikely.
Quote ="east hull FC fan"But Craig Hall is NOT good enough.'"
In your opinion.
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| Quote ="Kosh"In your opinion.'" If he was, he'd be playing. It really is that simlple Kosh.
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| Quote ="Kosh"A new condition? How desperate a need are we talking here? Any other conditional modifiers you'd like to add?'"
It obviously stands to reason that a club wouldn't recruit ANY player unless they had a need to. Doesn't it? It's a salary cap sport and I don't suppose many clubs go around signing players they don't need - however good they are.
If a top 6 club needed a prop (for example), they would be very interested in O'Meley. If a top 6 club needed a centre, I sincerely doubt they would have any interest in signing Hall.
Quote ="Kosh"Yeaman and Whiting have no place on that list IMO. Depending on what you count as Whiting's position.'"
Whiting would be an asset to any club. His position would be that he could play anywhere from 1-13 to quite a high standard. In the modern game, with cap limitations and whatnot, that's an excellent quality to have.
Yeaman we'll have to disagree on. If he got the sort of service Wigan's threequarters get, I don't think he'd look out of place in their side (or any other).
Quote ="Kosh" Berrigan would be borderline, as would Lauaki.'"
Agreed. Someone might take a punt on Berrigan because he has been a great player in the past and a fresh start can sometimes bring about a resurgence in form. Lauaki (and possibly Moa) might attract some interest depending on who else was available.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"That's the point entirely. Of course he's capable of doing good things, but he's not consistent enough to make it at this level.
Surely you don't believe this. He was promising as a youngster, but didn't progress as well as his early promise suggested he might. It happens. A lot.
Of course. Goes without saying!'"
didnt his points in today win and against salford,when we looked like we could have struggled like last week,,,pull your boots on boy lets see your metal,,theres lots of people on here who talk a good job and do fe*ck all,,
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"How do you know it happens to us more than others? Do you keep abreast of every prospect coming through every club? I think you'll find it just seems like it happens to us more because you notice it more when it's our club.
He's not a scapegoat. Really, he isn't. He's just not as good overall as most (if not all) of the other first team players. If he set the world alight in the games he did play, he wouldn't get dropped.
I think a useful measure of how good a player he is would be the number of clubs interested in him should he become available, and, more importantly, their league positions. Do you seriously think Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Wire or Hudds would want him?'"
if he's so terribly bad the club would have ditched him long before this season, i can see PROPER professionals coaches not arm chair ones know he's got natural tallent that can't be coached or taught thats why he is still there and not you..
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