I'd go with :

11 Fitzgibbon
12 Manu
13 Whiting

Can't see it happening though.

Well I'm all for Whiting to loose (he did come to the club as a stand off didn't he) especially considering the extra bulk he has put on.
Some seem to think it can't work having pivots at 1,6,7,and 13 but it doesn't seem to harm Leeds much.
Lets face it we don't need extra brawn with the likes of Ogre, Lauaki, Manu, Moa & Fitz in the mix.
We tend to play boring rugby at times because we don't utilise the talent we have in attacking positions.
I mean as well as Whitings done on the wing he is wasted there but I do realise there isn't anyone else that could do as well at the moment.
But he could utilise Washy there now and give him some time in his prefared position.

im a big fan of whiting imo though whitings best position for 2011 is as the best utility player in sl, playin off the bench a very important role imo. No one else can cover at a great standard the amount of positions rich can. Playing rich here will mean if an injury occours in any back or even back row position super sub is ready and willing and doesnt mean a whole team re juggle to accomodate. Rich is not a specialist in any position but does have an array of skills. 13 for me should be used as a floating pivotal role with washy best suited within the team for this. I admit i wasnt a big fan when he played their under sharp as he got lost in the forward battle but i think the time now he has served standing in at 6 will have helped him massively . Then fitz can move into a work horse 2nd row spot when ticks goes

Dont think a loose forward exists anymore to be honest. With second rowers and to an extent front rowers being more fluid and ball offloading its a position thats a little redundant for a specialist.

Sinfield,Purdham and to a extent Cooke are specialists.

But have played stand off. And Sinfield has mucked in at Hooker in emergencies.
Cooke has never been a specialist in anything as far as im concerned.

Oh Judas is certainly special

Not with a rugby ball.

My thoughts exactly

Iagree mate,fitz will stay.

also all the people calling for whiting at 13 i just cant see it happening.

The only reason I favour playing a pivot at 13 for us is down to our lack of craft in the halves (prior to Long arriving). I personally would love to see Washy given a prolonged outing there but under Agar's tenure we need to accept it will be a ball carrier at 13.

That isn't fair really, the kid could of been a legend at FC.

Nail on the head...could...

Done nothing since though has he, apart from believe he is bigger than the game itself.

Do you honestly believe that?

Having met him on several occasions yes!!

If you don't know him personally you have no right to pass judgement! The kid was mis-lead that's it.

Don't like the bloke but doesn't change the fact he was a good player for us and haven't being the same since .Not just down to him but also poor signings but he rarely missed games and set up plenty of tries for us .

I got a bit lost reading this thread but I assume we are talking Paul Cooke - I have been sat in his space (listening on the edges of his conversation) he is a foul mouth person with no respect for any-one but he is a Legend for Hull FC. The winning try at Cardiff says so.

I do know him

Why does it always end up going back to Cooke?

Meeting him on "several" occasions is different to knowing the kid and being friends for 20 odd years. He's a nice lad once you get to know him although he does come across as arrogant to people on the periphary I must admit!

Anyway, we digress. Washy for me if it's not Fitz, hopefully Fitz will stay for another year and Washy can develop more into the mould that Agar wants, he will always have the skill set for 13.

But we now have a pivot at full back, one in the halves and one at hooker. Do we really need 4 pivots and Richard Horne in the side?
It needs to balanced and I think we lose that by playing with a flair player at 13.

My thoughts exactly, when we got rid of Briscoe we started down the route of a 'creative' player at FB starting with Motu and ultimately ending up with Tansey. Each of us has an opinion and for mine I would go with the creative FB and the running LF every time.

agreed

Why not go for a creative full back and a creative 13 to compliment our creative 7, creative 9 and running 6. Tries galore.