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| all rumour and speculation trawled out by those trying to cause more issues and grief for the head coach !
He is liked by the staff and Directors because believe it or not he is a decent coach however Rome was not built in one season and it will take as RH and KH said pre season a" a couple of seasons to get the rosta right"
Look at Leeds early season !! they get their big guns back and start firing again, same for Quins etc etc, be patient!
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| Quote ="EXPRO"all rumour and speculation trawled out by those trying to cause more issues and grief for the head coach !
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He creates the issues and grief for himself by been unable to motivate a set of guys going out onto the pitch and by not been able to arm them with a decent game plan.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"all rumour and speculation trawled out by those trying to cause more issues and grief for the head coach !
He is liked by the staff and Directors because believe it or not he is a decent coach however Rome was not built in one season and it will take as RH and KH said pre season a" a couple of seasons to get the rosta right"
Look at Leeds early season !! they get their big guns back and start firing again, same for Quins etc etc, be patient!'"
Rome wasn't built in one season are you having a laugh!...he has been in charge for the last couple of seasons with the PR mill spouting excuse after excuse..Injuries!! Not his players!!! All B0llox, it is NOW his team and his win ratio has NOT improved!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Rome wasn't built in one season are you having a laugh!...he has been in charge for the last couple of seasons with the PR mill spouting excuse after excuse..Injuries!! Not his players!!! All B0llox, it is NOW his team and his win ratio has NOT improved!'"
Spot on.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Spot on.'"
Very depressing...I wonder if he will walk away like he claimed he would, or do you think because we are 6th he see's that as success even though we had the same points this time last season..
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Very depressing...I wonder if he will walk away like he claimed he would, or do you think because we are 6th he see's that as success even though we had the same points this time last season..'"
I think he honestly believes the injuries are whats wrong with the club and that he is doing a great job. I also sadly believe that James Rule has that view meaning Agar is safe.
I wont be renewing my pass!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"
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not quite "any kind of weather" is it??
I remember much much worse than this
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I think he honestly believes the injuries are whats wrong with the club and that he is doing a great job. I also sadly believe that James Rule has that view meaning Agar is safe.
[uI wont be renewing my pass! [/uicon_smile.gif'"
If we had a £1 every-time we have said that for the last 2/3 years eh
Bet we do
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Rome wasn't built in one season are you having a laugh!...he has been in charge for the last couple of seasons with the PR mill spouting excuse after excuse..Injuries!! Not his players!!! All B0llox, it is NOW his team and his win ratio has NOT improved!'"
Injuries are unfortunately not even JR can plan for , however i can see your very passionate about the club which is great but so is RA believe me!! when we get a lot of the thinking processes back on the green at once you will see the scoreboard tick over a bit!
we are half way through the season, and I am confident we will peak at the correct time..
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| Quote ="EXPRO"not quite "any kind of weather" is it??
I remember much much worse than this'"
Typical response as many mate. Sadly i'm a bit less blind than that and i'm definately not a simple follower. The club relies on 'in any kind of weather' though to keep serving up mediocrity knowing most will simply follow.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Typical response as many mate. Sadly i'm a bit less blind than that and i'm definately not a simple follower. The club relies on 'in any kind of weather' though to keep serving up mediocrity knowing most will simply follow.'"
you will be back , I know it because you love the club like everyone else, hence why your so passionate about it in your comments!!
but know this ... so is RA and the squad, judge him at the end of the season, were only half way
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Injuries are unfortunately not even JR can plan for , however i can see your very passionate about the club which is great but so is RA believe me!! when we get a lot of the thinking processes back on the green at once you will see the scoreboard tick over a bit!
we are half way through the season, and I am confident we will peak at the correct time..
be patient'"
Your posts are very similar to another poster on here..
I have already posted I think we will finish at least 6th if not 4th, due to the fact we have some good players due back, however I have lost faith in Agar, his selections and lack of plan B is pants.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"you will be back , I know it because you love the club like everyone else, hence why your so passionate about it in your comments!!
but know this ... so is RA and the squad, judge him at the end of the season, were only half way'"
I'd judged him last season and am been proven right at the minute that he should have gone then imo.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"This is the first time ive ever felt like sticking to what i've said though
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Lets just see how it all maps out, hopefully we will look back at these posts and laugh at ourselves
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Injuries are unfortunately not even JR can plan for , however i can see your very passionate about the club which is great but so is RA believe me!! when we get a lot of the thinking processes back on the green at once you will see the scoreboard tick over a bit!
we are half way through the season, and I am confident we will peak at the correct time..
be patient'"
At last someone with a bit of positivity,i also think when our key players come back we,ll be a different team, even if we loose some i think we,ll give it a better go than we have been doing!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Lets just see how it all maps out, hopefully we will look back at these posts and laugh at ourselves
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I often look back and laugh at myself, it's usually down to the tripe i post but i'm not optimistic it is tripe this time.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I often look back and laugh at myself, it's usually down to the tripe i post but i'm not optimistic it is tripe this time.
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I post tripe as well.....Grand Final here we come
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| I don't think anyone wants the guy to fail and I don't know anybody who questions his passion for the club and RL. Unfortunately it's his ability (or lack of), and as a fan who's had to endure two seasons of rubbish whilst watching other clubs bring in top coaches and see big turnarounds - I'm loosing my patience a bit.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"you will be back , I know it because you love the club like everyone else, hence why your so passionate about it in your comments!!
but know this ... so is RA and the squad, judge him at the end of the season, were only half way'"
I will watch the team with Agar in charge next season, however it will only be at away fixtures and with this seasons shirt. I will not put anymore money into this club whilst they settle for mediocrity. Agar has had more chances than he deserves.
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| Quote ="PaulDobbs"After speaking to Yemo and Houghton last night in Zoological and hearing the confidence they have in Agar and hearing Fitz, Longy and Tickle are back for the next game I am going to support Agar till the end of the month and see how we are doing then, I will get behind our team so everyone else should do the same, remember we are in the playoffs and in front of KR and I would have settled for 6th at the half way point if some one gave me it before the season would you? if yes he must be doing a decent job
Theres only one Richard Agar one Richard Agar!!!!!!!!!!'"
You are Cheeky Charlie,and I claim my £5
I will give you your due,you have managed a 5 page response up to now.
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| IMO I can't see how you could even suggest he hasn't had his chance. Maybe he has got the desire to win things but which coach doesn't. It was not hard to notice his reactions after every mistake on Saturday as the Skysports cameras panned to him nearly every time. Wasn't exactly ripping the seats out and screaming at them to buck their ideas up!!. The bottom line is, when id took charge it was " not my team, injuries etc. " his 1st full season it was " injuries and need a clear out " this season with HIS team it is no better, 5 up the middle and a poor kick, if it isn't working them plan b which is 5 up the middle and a poorer kick.. boring, embarrassing injury prone has beens or never have beens!!. His had his chance and we suffer this muck week after week!!! I am, have and til he has gone will always side with the Agar out opinion..
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| Agar is not going to get sacked at the moment so we need to get behind him and the team, look how good we was at St Helens when we had Longy, Fitz and Berro in the same side, It only takes one victory and our confidence will be back, look what happened when Leeds lost Sinfield and now he is back there a different team.
Look at our potential sie for the next game which is alot better then the one against Harlequins
1, Tansey
2, Whiting
3, Turner
4, Yemo
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Taking Hall and Dowes out the team will make a huge difference as both have to be let go at the end of the season as there both poor players
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| About players coming back, that's a poor excuse IMHO.
Saints have lost their main playmaker in Long this season,
Eastmond is a runner,not a creator, but...........
Have they changed their attacking structure?, Have they stopped the dummy runners running at different angles??
Have they stopped backing up?
They pummelled HKR 54 zip, when was the last time we hammered a side??
Has Michael Maguire signed a lot of new players at his club??
No!
Yet, Wigan have been transformed in 3 months,with the SAME players!!
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| Can anyone name a player that has [iimproved[/i under Agar's tenure?.
I can think of quite a few who have gone backwards.
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