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| Quote ="TKOAH"Find me the game stats for Willie Manu playing centre.
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Guess you missed the last home game then
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Find me the game stats for Willie Manu playing centre.
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he briefly filled in at centre in the last home game
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| Quote ="FC Callum"The only change I'd of made would of been Kent for Lyne, even if he only managed 10 minutes it's 10 minutes rest for someone. '"
Yep, said exactly this on another thread. Apart from that, was pretty pleased.
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| One closing post on this from me. I don't understand what people expect from this season? We're more than a third through the season and are in fifth position, lacking some consistency but showing some really impressive performances along the way. You don't go from 12th to champions in one year... Rome wasn't built in a year and all that. The last 2 seasons have been really dissapointing for everyone, Agar included. People say about injuries not making that much difference... Look at Leeds, despite having probably the best team in the league a few injuries and they're 9th in the table, injuries really do affect a team.
Our team this season is much better than last season, Agar has put together an exciting team and has shown he is very good in the transfer market - both outgoings and ingoings. We're going to have blips along the way, everytime does. Losing at Celtic and Salford is dissapointing but everytime has bad matches look at Huddersfield today. We've beat 3 of last years top 4 including a very impressive performance away to St Helens. We don't have a good enough back division to make the top 2 or the grand final however with a bit of luck might make the top 4, what we have shown in the opening third of the season is that we have a team who will be very difficult to beat and could make a big impact in the CC and the PO's.
We have Agar for the next 2 years whether we like it or not, we've improved this year and I have every confidence we'll do the same again next year. What makes me laugh is when O'Meley, Fitz and Long were signing everyone was saying "These are top players, they are experienced and won't stand for any crap from Agar, if he's a bad coach they'll let it be known". Now we get 'Oh he's telling them what to say'. These players and other senior players will have being asked before the board offered Agar the job for another two years.. these players like him but apparently just because they like him their opinion doesn't matter anymore in the eyes of some fans.
It just seems most people are hell bent on Agar not succeeding at our club and would rather see us lose week in week out than Agar have us win. Today we have come off an away Derby win highly motivated against the team 2nd in the league who were at full strength and gave them a run for their money, 1 year ago we had just come off a very poor away performance against St Helens after a Derby loss at home. There's improvement for you.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Because Lyne was murdered by Jodie Broughton, what would Matt King and Hicks done to him?'"
Then Agar is a clown for picking dead people on the bench.
So putting Lyne againt Hicks or the ginger who doesnt know what a touchline is would be worse then putting a 18 yo forward against Mozza, Carvell, Solomonoa and Anderson x2?
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Then Agar is a clown for picking dead people on the bench.
So putting Lyne againt Hicks or the ginger who doesnt know what a touchline is would be worse then putting a 18 yo forward against Mozza, Carvell, Solomonoa and Anderson x2?'"
If he had no other options then he had no other options... We had 6 players out today. There was only one other real alternative and you've just discredited him.
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| SOME PEOPLE TALK UTTER BOLL-X
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| Quote ="wolfie"SOME PEOPLE TALK UTTER BOLL-X'"
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| Quote ="hullfctillidie"agar today does not have a clue with put r lyne on bench and not used him.We might as well of put someone like fitz on the bench
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Get a grip ffs!!
Agar had little option today as the U20's played over the weekend too.
The only thing he could have done different imo is with 15 mins to go with the game in the balance I felt Wire were knackered and I would have brought Lyne onto the wing, put Whiting to FB, Tansey to 7, Berrigan to 9 and tried to utilise Lyne's pace.
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| agar is inept, however we didn't lose because of his tactic of trying to take wire on down the middle, it was mainly due to the lack of quality we have and the fact the forwards were out on their feet.
You couldn't have asked for any more effort today, however I do feel we could have been a lot smarter in the way we played
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Because Lyne was murdered by Jodie Broughton, what would Matt King and Hicks done to him?'"
Hicks got three tries anyway.
The problem is that we had four players out of position, no cover for the back row and were a player short all afternoon. If that is preferable to playing Lyne, then Lyne needs binning as he's nowhere near the level of player required. As it is, Lyne is a decent young player who can do a job on the wing and he'd be much more use there than he was sat twiddling his thumbs all afternoon today. It was a poor decision to move a whole group of players and leave ourselves short to avoid having to play a winger on the, er..., wing.
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| To have a player on the bench and not use him is an utter joke. Lynne maybe should have not been on the bench, liam kent maybe. To play with 16 against Wire is moronic.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Because after Jodie Broughton showed Lyne is not ready, Atkins, King Hicks and Riley would have finished the kids career before it even started.'"
If thats the case why did our coach with a new contract pick him on the bench?
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| And its not the first time Agar refused to play a player.
And yet he'll moan about the 2 games in 4 days
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| You know I can't believe some of you lot on here. We saw a bloody gutsy performance from the lads today under difficult circumstances. Whatever your views on Agar, he's got the job for the next 2 years, and it's about time some of you stopped moaning and got behind him and the team.
Sometimes I think some of you actually want him to fail!
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| i really cant believe there are so many thick hull fc fans that think by ousting agar will do the club and team a whole heap of good,this season is his team they are gelling well playing as a team and not one man rugby,the guy needs sum credit for keeping fc in the top 5 so far,i really think some of the negative numptys need to understand the game of rugby league instead of spouting a load of rubbish they know nothing about,as for todays game i think agar and the team(wot woz left ov em)did rather well considering the team they played who are second in the league...great effort.
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"i really cant believe there are so many thick hull fc fans that think by ousting agar will do the club and team a whole heap of good,this season is his team they are gelling well playing as a team and not one man rugby,the guy needs sum credit for keeping fc in the top 5 so far,i really think some of the negative numptys need to understand the game of rugby league instead of spouting a load of rubbish they know nothing about,as for todays game i think agar and the team(wot woz left ov em)did rather well considering the team they played who are second in the league...great effort.'"
Just got back from the boozer?
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| Quote ="Darrell"Just got back from the boozer?'" no mate i just tell it like it really is...some people just dont get it...we dont just become unbeatable overnite even with the best players in the world or even the best coach...look what tony smith did at leeds then look what he did with wire(same as agar..cc final for thier 1st yr) and look where wire are(2nd) and where fc is(5th) now compared it to this time last season....rich agar aint so bad afterall is he???
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| Quote ="airliebird58"You know I can't believe some of you lot on here. We saw a bloody gutsy performance from the lads today under difficult circumstances. Whatever your views on Agar, he's got the job for the next 2 years, and it's about time some of you stopped moaning and got behind him and the team.
[uSometimes I think some of you actually want him to fail!'" [/u
I agree with you on that.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"[/u
I agree with you on that.'"
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"[/u
I agree with you on that.'"
of course they do because they'd rather be proved right than have to accept they might have got it wrong and say at the end of every fecking post every fecking week "I hope he proves me wrong" - yeah sure you do.
It's simple to say "Agar is crap" when we lose and "the opposition are poor" when we win - where would the fun be in saying "you know what I'm seeing signs of improvement"?
I even noticed that people were posting on here that Wire were poor yesterday. So how come they're second in the table? They must have either played a lot of other poor teams or saved their worst performance for us. Teams play as well as the opposition let them - simples.
We played up the middle blah blah blah - =#0000BFgood, it was our biggest strength with both half-backs off the field and depleted back-line - how else would people suggest we play? No doubt with free-flowing rugby using our benched half-back, Lyne, ffs. I find it incredible that people on here profess to know the game and/or "to have played it to a pretty good standard" and yet demonstrate week-in-week-out a complete a lack of understanding of the fundamentals of the game, and the dynamics of any given match.
The lads did very well yesterday and for those who think that the ref did not have a major influence on the game why were thousands singing "the referee's a Ganson", "cheat cheat" and generally boo-ing him. No doubt, they don't know the rules unlike the privileged few on here who love to drink deep from their half-empty glasses.
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| I doubt any one knows what level of fitness Kent and lyne had before the game, the both played on Saturday, there was no one else left to name.
If Agar had have brought lyne on and he had made a few mistakes people would be slagging him off for playing him.
He can't win atm imo.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I doubt any one knows what level of fitness Kent and lyne had before the game, the both played on Saturday, there was no one else left to name.
If Agar had have brought lyne on and he had made a few mistakes people would be slagging him off for playing him.
He can't win atm imo.'"
That's the whole point, why pick someone in the squad and then not play them.
A major factor in why we lost was fatigue because the players weren't rotated in a proper manner.
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| Quote ="Darrell"That's the whole point, why pick someone in the squad and then not play them.
A major factor in why we lost was fatigue because the players weren't rotated in a proper manner.'"
It really, really wasn't. We were fatigued from the derby, we had a number of players missing (including both halfbacks) and were playing against a full strength Wire outfit. If you seriously think that playing Reece Lynne or Liam Kent would have altered the result in any way (other than perhaps allowing Wire to score more tries), you need your head examining.
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