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| Quote ="TommysDad"I think you've got it all out of context here pal, he was trying to say that other's do have different views, also trying to point out that certain people on here are having a go at the most trivial things possible - like Agar's facial expressions.
He was not 'patting himself on the back' at all, but yes, he is a great supporter like most of us (I can vouch for that as he's my lad) and I can't see anywhere where he's mentioning that anyone's automatically wrong.
Think you've got this a little out of kilter mate.'"
I disagree. I think your 'lad' has got it out of kilter in that he seems quite happy to knock people for having an opinion about Agar that differs from his own. It's amazing how many people seem to think that, just because we have won the game, there ought to be total positivity about everything surrounding the club.
Had that knock on leading to the Fox 'try' been missed, this forum would be a very different place tonight. Yes, we got the win, and we'll certainly enjoy it. But if we give Wire a fraction of the cheap possession we gave Rovers we'll be soundly beaten.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"BUT had we lost...'"
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I disagree. I think your 'lad' has got it out of kilter in that he seems quite happy to knock people for having an opinion about Agar that differs from his own. It's amazing how many people seem to think that, just because we have won the game, there ought to be total positivity about everything surrounding the club.
Had that knock on leading to the Fox 'try' been missed, this forum would be a very different place tonight. Yes, we got the win, and we'll certainly enjoy it. But if we give Wire a fraction of the cheap possession we gave Rovers we'll be soundly beaten.'"
But we weren't against Wire, we were against Robins, and we won.
Get a bloody grip.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"But we weren't against Wire, we were against Robins, and we won.
Get a bloody grip.'"
So because we won against Rovers, we don't need to sort out the obvious flaws in our attacking play, our tendency to cough up the ball in ridiculous positions and our awful discipline? Really?
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| I am very Fickle
Arise Sir Rich
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| Quote ="downtheante"The win had nothing to do with Agar - it was purely down to the desire of the players on the day!'"
But if we had lost it would have been Agar's fault of course.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"But if we had lost it would have been Agar's fault of course.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"So because we won against Rovers, we don't need to sort out the obvious flaws in our attacking play, our tendency to cough up the ball in ridiculous positions and our awful discipline? Really?'"
It's amazing how many people believe that to be the case.
A scraped derby win and everything in the garden is rosy again
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I am very Fickle
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's amazing how many people believe that to be the case.
A scraped derby win and everything in the garden is rosy again'"
It's amazing how many people believe that to be the case.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"It's amazing how many people believe that to be the case.'"
Nice of you to agree with me yet again
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Nice of you to agree with me yet again
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Bit subtle for you mate sorry.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If anyone thinks Agar is remotely bothered about answering his critics on the terraces I would suggest they are also living in a dream world. He will be judged on where we finish in the table at the end of the season.'"
whether he cares or not, it doesn't alter the fact that a narrow win over rovers in a game we could have lost on another day makes not a shred of difference to peoples' concerns about his credentials for the job.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Bit subtle for you mate sorry.'"
Yeah, almost as subtle as my response
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| Quote ="tiger2000" had the Fox try been allowed this thread would have been another 'Agar Out'.'"
There is going to be plenty of time for that!!!!!
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"whether he cares or not, it doesn't alter the fact that a narrow win over rovers in a game we could have lost on another day makes not a shred of difference to peoples' concerns about his credentials for the job.'"
Nor should it. People should stick to their guns if they believe in their position why shouldn't they ? My point was that all he can control is results.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Nor should it. People should stick to their guns if they believe in their position why shouldn't they ? My point was that all he can control is results.'"
Unless we lose then it's the players not following his game plan?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Unless we lose then it's the players not following his game plan?'"
Unless we win then it's all down to Dennis Moore or having better players than last year ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Unless we win then it's all down to Dennis Moore or having better players than last year ?'"
No, it's all down to my psychic powers when we win
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No, it's all down to my psychic powers when we win'"
No wonder we've been struggling.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Nor should it. People should stick to their guns if they believe in their position why shouldn't they ? My point was that all he can control is results.'"
I'm not sure about that, forgive the football analogy but look at Megson at Bolton.. He made some really good signings and wasn't doing too badly in the league (in the context of what their fans could realistically expect).But, because his style of football was dire and he showed no interest whatsoever in the fan's opinions on him, they ended up hounding him out of his job.
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| In fairness to Agar he oicked the right team and we won the game so fair play to him. 4th best defence and 5th best attack so far and sitting in 5th place. I'd have took that 9 games ago.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"I'm not sure about that, forgive the football analogy but look at Megson at Bolton.. He made some really good signings and wasn't doing too badly in the league (in the context of what their fans could realistically expect).But, because his style of football was dire and he showed no interest whatsoever in the fan's opinions on him, they ended up hounding him out of his job.'"
Not a bad analogy but IMO the Board decided a while back to try to develop a young British coach by backing him for 3 years with the signings he wanted and the time they thought he needed. That doesn't seem to me like a scenario where he will easily get the push, although I'd be surprised if there are not target clauses in his new deal. As I said the other day with record ticket sales, bags of sponsorship and no perceivable match day protests from fans over his tenure I don't see a Megson occurring any time soon. We're 60% without playing particularly well attacking wise. Couple of bad hiccups but it looks like the Board are taking a longer term view with this new squad.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Wish he would show some emotion the miserable git........still got another 2 yrs of this bland style of Agar rugby....yippee bloody do.'"
so youd be unhappy with wayne benett?
or do you have to be succesful to earn the right?
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