So what have they in common then Miss Educated?

Possibly true, but don't recall Hudge ever brainwashing anyone about that.

In all fairness after what we've had to spend on the squad and the stadium and facilities in the last few years and the length of time we've been in SL compared to you, I'd be shocked if the respective figures for both clubs were any different to what they are.

In the same way I can't see how Rovers fans can criticise the hull fc setup, I find it hard to believe that hull fans are actually daft enough to think we're in some kind of financial meltdown.

I did not as I do not get too involved in the finances (as I do not understand them)..however when Hudge did the media article about losing 400k per season and saying this was unsustainable and you needed a 10k gate etc this kind of drew attention to your financial plight

Yes we need to average around 10k to start making inroads on the debt, but the point is the debt was not only planned, but vital in making the jump from being a NL club to a SL one.

All this talk that Hudge has spent beyond his means and dropped us in it, is complete fantasy. In fact, if he's guilty of anything, its being too honest about it and giving out certain facts that certain people (on both sides of the river) don't have the intellect to understand.

Fair comments.

Really? Looked like a naive POV with an arrogant little playground snipe at the end to me. Oh well.

Really? I'm sorry you've interpreted it that way because it was neither.

FWIW I didn't mean to suggest that anyone who doesn't understand the financial information lacks intelligence. I was referring to those hull [iand[/i rovers fans who have twisted it into a 'financial crisis' situation. When, in reality, it is not.

It's a little difficult to interpret this...


...any other way TBH.

The facts are actually pretty straightforward and easy to understand. Saying that people who disagree with your particular interpretation are basically too thick to understand what's been said or printed is both arrogant and childish IMO.

But there you go.

The 10k average needed has been well publicised. Hudgell said that the debt was planned in order to get the club and side up to the standard that we are currently at. Hudgell also stated that the club had been perhaps to open and honest about our position.

Sorry but that is rubbish. You have payed over the odds on a number of contracts which were not a 'necessity'. The debt is higher then it could and should have been.

But without paying those contracts we wouldnt have attracted the calibre of players that we have done to a newly promoted club. Results would therefore have been poorer and crowds lower. Therefore revenue less and debts possibly higher than they are now.

Exactly. In any case no club has a 100% success rate with transfers. OK, the club could maybe have been more prudent with players, but of the big earners, who really has failed?



Like I say, I was mainly referring to the hull fans that are 'stirring' it, and the rovers fans who are hitting the panic buttons.

Money that [ihas[/i to be spent [ihas[/i to come from somewhere.

I think you are paying the contracts of a cup final appearing team. To consolidate you didnt need to.

If stories of trying to offload players are true then that kind of backs this up.

By contracts I am probably talking about 4 or 5 players that got more then their market value IMO not the Vellas of this world who have earnt the right to their deals.

Debatable.

But not on here. Too much thread drift people (and yes I did contribute to it) so can we get back to the original topic rather than yet another discussion of Rovers finances.

Ta.

We are spending up to the salary cap maximum now that Joel Clinton has arrived. Most of Super League spend to the maximum. Are they all cup final appearing teams?

Does every club spend to the cap? Does a team not spending to the cap not compete?

Do you think all your players justify their contracts? Think my point is that you are paying international class wages to non rep players. Fair point?

Bottom line is the level of debt is very high.

Ask on our board mate and i will answer it.

Excellent advice.

You have overspent. Thats a fact.

On the cap? I don't think it's possible anymore.

No, as a business

Possibly - but that is an opinion not a fact. If you want to discuss your opinion on our board, I'll see you there in a bit.

Snag with that is if a certain other mod doesnt like it...the delete and ban button comes out.

We're a capriscious bunch.



edit - doesn't mean we can spell it!

You are not kidding there is has got worse