One thing i prefer is a more ball playing loose man i feel it gives the team a good attacking triangle with plenty of options, granted this year i feel tansey will come up from full back to play a bit of this role, but i thought Mcmenemy is the typical type Loose man for me robust but gave you something in attack.

Yeah he is right because under his Captaincy and Agar's leadership we finished bottom last year and next to bottom the year before. Leeds have a world class player at 13 in Sinfield and Sculthorpoe was no battering ram when they ruled. If you play 13 as an 8 you get what you deserve. Wise Up

Reckon we'll finish in the play offs, can't see us getting in the top 4 just yet though, top 6 should be the target. Hopefully a win at Wembley too

If we stay injury free then we should finish between 6-8th

Doesnt seem to have botherd the Aussies does it...they use 3 2nd rowers.....i like a ball playing 13 but most teams use a extra 2nd rower as a 13 now.

It's difficult to predict were we will finish this season, I'm really hoping to see us in the top 6, fingers crossed at the higher end. Got to say though I'm lookin forward to seeing a bit of BIFF, bring it on!!!

If we can maintain our current position as THE TOP CLUB in the profitability table, I'll be happy looking down on our skint neighbours

6th this year for us I think behind Leeds, Saints, Warrington, Wigan, Bradford

And as promised by Longy a Wembley win !!

Wise up



The loose forward role is split amongst SL and NRL sides, some prefer the extra battering ram and some prefer the more creative player. I believe a mixture of the two is the best option although it depends on the personel. Leeds for example have Sinfield who can do both roles when required.

Also a lot of sides emply a prop at 13 for the first 4/5 games of the year when grounds tend to be heavier, Saints, Hudds, Leeds, Wire and us all do that.

So yeah wise up. Radford at 13 was not the reason we finished so low down the table, it was a lack of halves that was our main issue with scoring tries.

I never said Radford at 13 was the reason , I said Radford as Captain and Agar as coach gave us our worst 2 seasons practically ever ! Last season was utterly shocking regardless of a 7 & 6 !!!

If we stay injury free, which given the last few years seems about as likely as me winning the lottery at the moment, then I think we have a good enough team for top 4 personally. I think on paper we are as good, if not better than 2005 and 2006.

Stevo has just tipped us for the cup and the top four, but he is saying Leeds V Wire for the grand final, with us and Bratfut as dark horses.

I would settle for that!!

A really good season would be top 4 a decent season would be top 6 and an average season would be top 8. Anything less than play-off rugby would be a really poor season IMO.

Me too!

Just what i was thinking

isnt stevo bad luck

With the team we have we should make the playoffs, if we dont im afraid agar will be gone.

anywhere above mid table will be just fine for me and build on it, I am always wary of quick fixes!!
build for the future a step at a time

After the disaster of last season, I'm not going to put my head on the block by predicting a finishing positiong for this season. What I will say though is that I'm optimistic... cautiously optimistic!!

1 Leeds 1 1 0 0 34 6 28 2

2 Bradford 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

3 Castleford 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

4 Catalans 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

5 Harlequins RL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

6 Huddersfield 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

7 Hull 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

8 Hull K R 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

9 Salford 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

10 St Helens 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

11 Wakefield 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

12 Warrington 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

13 Wigan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

14 Crusaders RL 1 0 0 1 6 34 -28 0

were in the top 8

As this old thread shows:
Very few rated Wigan before the season kicked off

Same team as last year, but a top coach is the big difference.

Good job I'm not a betting man.

Never mind. I thought Bradford would be the team to beat.