Depends, I wouldnt if the staircase was not designed for public use, and if it had a sign saying "do not use this staircase" stuck on it. The equivalent of which, presumably a luggage rack, designed for luggage, and not people would have.

Is the claimants name Mr/Mrs/Miss Gecko per chance?

Of course, as has been seen on the comments board and on here, the old sweeping generalisations of buses and drivers pour forth from the mouths of the misinformed and downright ignorant. I know it's a well-worn platitude, but if you can't do the job yourself, don't pass comment.

Regarding the incident itself, it is possible the driver had to spend time concentrating on the road (we do from time to time

) and these girls clambered into the luggage rack without her knowing. A window falling out is, thankfully, a very rare occurence and cannot always be picked up on a first user check to determine whether it will fall out on it's journey or not.

Cottingham High School have a significant number of pupils who have trouble behaving themselves outside of school, with our company having to send officials there on numerous occasions to deal with problems on school buses.

And for those who say that putting an adult on board school buses to ensure behaviour, well an inspector from our company was once assaulted by schoolchildren on a school bus. It's not a guarantee.

I'm not blowing our company's trumpet, but our maintenance and operation record is pretty good. Tendering for school contracts is a cutthroat business, and it is inevitable that the less salubrious companies get a fair share of the work. I know Ellie Rose's mechanic, and he does a good job under trying circumstances, but companies like them can't afford to run reasonable vehicles on school contracts. Thankfully, such incidents are very few and far between.

It is not the fact that the kid acted up that is the problem, it is the fact that her parents aren't setting the correct example that what she did was wrong. The message being sent is "if you f*ck about, it's OK because we'll hopefully get some money out of it". That girl probably thinks she's untouchable now. That's the worst part of parenting, not the fact that it happened, but the dealing with what happened.

Her parents are trying to get reward for their kid being a prat. Reckon she'll do it again?
And people wonder why kids don't follow the rules.

Very true, The Americans have been down this same track with the claim senarios for years but have now come out the other side with less care for casual claims and many courst wont even get into litigation over such things now in the US, lets hopewe follow suit

thats next weeks news

my father back in the 60s & 70s would have put me to sleep for a wee while for such as that!! its all about the family and nothing else, if you lack control and upbringing you are destined to jump the rails, not all but your backbone is your staff of life, down to your parents to make you grow one!!
Jesus i grew up as a kid in a very tight knit community down Withernsea street in a very very run down area where no one had any money but the kids all knew how far to go and when to stop and what would happen if they didnt !! what excuse do they have today apart from being ignorant

Exactly. Kids will test their boundaries of behaviour and see what they can and can't get away with. The only way they learn is when you teach them. The mother of this child has taught her she can get away with this sort of behaviour. Next time she could be dead.

Oh, and I read the HDM article today and saw the picture. The mother says something along the lines of "I haven't seen the footage yet, but she assures me she wasn't messing about. The older kids put their bags on the seats so there was nowhere else to sit".
OK...
1) how can she be stood on the luggage shelf without messing about? Did someone force her up their against her will and stop her from moving?!
And 2) ignoring the fact that there are clearly seats available on the bus on the picture, does the fact there are no seats available mean she can stand on the luggage shelf?! I'm pretty sure the aisles are for standing in if the bus seats are full?!

Basically, I think the mother should stop believing the crap coming out of her daughter's mouth and actually look at the pictures/CCTV footage before spouting off to the paper.

That maybe the case, however the main issue is a child has climbed on a rack (wrongly) and fell out of the window, this behaviour is wrong no doubts there, however it poses some serious health & safety questions with regard to child safety, clarification needs to be sought if the driver saw this and if so why they did not stop and act...It was a moving vehicle a child could have been killed, would people suggest a twelve year old deserved that die to skylarking about?
If you read all my posts you will notice I have not made any reference to the claim. Also I doubt the child would do it again, I am sure it would put the fear of god into most children falling out of an emergency window of a moving bus into the road.

the phrase "natural selection" springs to mind!

Why is it the drivers fault?

I never said it was the drivers fault!!

It needs to be established if the driver saw the incident (girls climbing onto rack), if the driver did, he/her has a responsibility to stop and tell them to get down as an accident could be caused (which it did).
The driver has a responsibility of driving children to school and ensuring their safety were possible this includes his/her driving safely and the safety of the passengers.

It would be the companies fault because the window was clearly not up to standard. Whether she was in the wrong or nor or whether it was the drivers fault or not, had the window been of the correct standard non of this would have happened. Just be thankful that she didn't fall under another vehicle and end up losing her life all together.

Yes, DRIVING, it isn't the drivers job to control badly behaved scroates who'se parents would rather blame someone else than their own lack of discipline.

Parents need to start taking responsibility for their kids, no kid should be fat, no kid should be illiterate, no kid should be without respect for their elders.

End of the day, parents need to stop being their kids best friend, and start being their biological guardian. I am glad to say all of my FC following friends who have kids look after them, but they dont apologise for their indescretions, they punish them (fairly), which is why we choose to spend time with them.

Im suprised that buses still allow passengers to stand and that no one hasnt claimed for falling over when a bus brakes

You are spouting total sh*t now, no kid should be fat what about the ones with medical issues



You clearly know nothing about kids or parenting!! A little tip my kids are all my best friends and I pray this will be the case until I leave this earth!!

Just grabbing my coat and heading for the bus stop now!!!!



The first question that should be asked......"Should this girl have known she shouldnt be standing on something that is OBVIOUSLY NOT meant to be stood on??????"

If her money grabbing family get a 'few beer tokens' from this......then the tit giving them such a reward is obviously as retared as the girl stood where she shouldn't be and leaning on a window!

Just an observation!!!!

I can't take you seriously anymore.

That is utter cack. You even managed to turn it into Hull FC versus the rest of the world

Seems to me that the driver isn't at fault at all and that all the child is guilty of is 'Messing' about on the bus, which i know is wrong but at 12 years old on a School bus is bound to happen.

The real people in the wrong here are the parents, they are the ones who are making the claim, they will see pound signs instead of just been thankful that their child wasn't more seriously injured.

"And if you ever do it again, if the bus doesn't kill you then I WILL!!!"

Now THAT'S parenting!

Had she not been standing on top of something your not even supposed to sit on and behaving like a prat none of this would have happened either. She could quite easily have just fallen over on the bus and cracked her head open whilst behaving like a little prat. I suspect her "parents" would have found something else to try and blame to get some cash out of it though. Hudge and his pathetic adverts have alot to answer for.

So because she was somewhere she shouldn't have been, doing something she shouldn't have been and had an accident they should be compensated? What exactly is the basis of the claim anyway? No loss of earnings and no serious damage as far as I can tell?

I might go and climb on top of the King Billy statue......there are no railings around it, no signs saying "Dont climb on this statue".....So....if/when I fall and bust my head.....Anyone know where I can go to make a claim?????

I know plenty about kids, and crap parenting, I have to pay for the consequences via my tax every day.

face it, apologist parents are the problem.

Bring back the birch I say

bit like burglars who have sued when they have fallen through warehouse roofs or caught themselves on razor wire / glass on top of walls etc

You are hardly in a position to suggest I face any-thing considering the insular pathetic generalisation you have towards children and parenting even though you are not a parent yourself. I am still trying to grasp the fact you believe parents should not consider their children their best friends...speak when your spoken to eh!!

What a pathetic story, sadly it say everything about modern society.