Leeds are the only side who appear streets ahead of everyone.

Saints are paying the price for poor recruitment over the last few years and the fact they had a squad that has slowly succumed to old father time.

Salford, Quins, Celtic and Wakey will be the bottom 4

You've recruited well on paper and you'd hope you will improve but you seem to think it's the coaching set-up that will be your problem.

2-10 is pretty open i'd say. We need to strengthen our front row to get anywhere near where we've been this season and i'd guess we will in the next month or so.

Hull and Rovers will be around 5th/6th next year i'd say

wakey below bradford? i'd be surprised.

you are so obsessed with Rovers arent you.....

LUHL CF

Rearrange these to find out.

Fair points, but echo Sheldon's point about Bradford. The frustration for me is that, as you say, 2-10 has rarely been closer, yet a club the size of FC won't invest in a top coach which makes a disproportionate difference now that the salary cap is really taking effect. I think Warrington will actually be the one to watch next season, after years of scorning their claims of "Next Year is the Year of the Wolf". Will be interesting to see how Wigan go as well.

Not makin any big predictions but hope were shouting from the rooftops come next autumn. Take each game as it comes and hopefully good form week in week out, a near fully fit squad and a dam better showing from the coaching staff will do the trick. The club really is under pressure even without Offiah's comments to compete and be successful over the next couple of years at least and beyond. The fans have had to put up with far too much mediocrity since 2006.

Failure isnt an option anymore.

agree but dont think st helens will be in top 4. with having 3 good leaders on the field and a very big pack fc will be in the top 4 if st helens carn't bring it back will like to think hull will be fighting it out with leeds just hope there sort out the refs out for next year leed get more credit then they deserve how many time did leeds do forward passes and get it allowed other teams got them disallowed not just us same as gf that was offside without a dawt if saints did it it would have been no try

I've always thought Offiah to be a clueless buffoon so i suppose i shouldn't change now.

For me Leeds, Wigan, Catalans, Warrington and St Helens will be the strongest sides in the competition.

I have major doubts about our coach.

Where we finish will depend greatly on how many games we get out of Long. I said the same about Adam Dykes 2 years ago and for me its the same next year. If he plays the majority, i think 6th-8th is a realistic predition.

I have said all along we could have 13 Aussie internationals in our starting 13 and we would still fail to realise our potential while Agar is in charge, nothing has changed that point of view.

I hope i'm wrong but the failings of this year cannot all be laid at the door of the players...will Rich Agar improve on last seasons showing? That remains to be seen obvioulsy, but i have my doubts.

I agree

Look closer to home, mate.

I agree. And for what its worth we will be the same.

For me the deciding factor will be the influence of the 'senior' players, I honestly think Agar is walking a thin line with [ieveryone[/i concerned with Hull Fc.
He HAS to pull something different out of the bag next year. If he doesn't use these players to assist him then he's a bigger fool than Jake the peg says he is.

Which would be a major achievement in itself.

Surely i don't have to.................do i?

If we can stay relatively injury free in the main positions 4th or above without a doubt, our pack will win us alot of games this season and in turn our backs should have more ball running opportunities, infact I'm gonna book my hotel room for OT now

Agreed. I think the possibility of 4th is the highest aim we could possibly have this year. That said, I agree with 6th to 8th and it would be an improvement.
Mind you when you look at the quality of the side that finished 4th this year, we could win it

I never mentioned Rovers. Does the fact that what Offiah said mirrors rovers recruitment upset you?


My avatar and signature are direct responses to Rovers fans who are obsessed with hull

Why, what did he say about us?

He never said anything about rovers

He mentioned all other teams in the top 4 and there ability to do well next year, but never mentioned Rovers.........or did he

Guten Morgen

I thought it was "Gutted Morgan" after failing to win a playoff game?

So if he was gutted how was Agar feeling at been responsible for Hull's lowest SL finish for a decade? Oh wait, it "wasn't his team" was it?!