Does that mean Rob Burrow's nose was offside for the whole match?

This was best demonstrated by Smith's 'try'. They'd been going to the helicopter shot all night for no apparent reason, then, the one time they need the frigging thing to see if Smith is offside, the view is obscured by the roof.

That's you, Bighead and some of the Rhinos fans, then

Think you know as much about the game as Bentham.....you his offspring by any chance?? He was at least a yard in front of the lkicker and should not have been a try, and wouldn't have been if any one other than Benham was VR. No wonder game is sinking down the attendances....the kids play better rugby on school playing fields than was on show by Leeds last night. As for Sinfield, the day he receives a pass that isn't forward, I'll buy his next Ebay item!!!!!!....grannyfan Cindy

Aye, but remember Hutchie had been collecting all his overdue pints from you all since 8am so by the time Bentham gave the try he was as drunk as VR too!!!!! See you at forum and pay you my pint then hutch....granny

I liked the moving side cam ,The heli cam was gash . Sky = overkill.

Were talking about his second try, not his first

I'll just post this again. Does anyone know where the off-side rule at a kick is clearly outlined?

So - checked the rules and can't find a direct reference to a player having to be "behind" "the ball" in general play. I found a reference to "both feet" being "behind", and a reference to defending players not advancing in front of the ball at kick-offs and 20m restarts. I found it difficult to cross-refer so I might have missed something. Anyone help with a more straightforward wording in the rules somewhere?
OFF SIDE as applied to a player means that he is temporarily out of play and may be penalised if he joins in the game (see Section 14.)
KICK means imparting motion to the ball with any part of the leg (except the heel) from knee to toe inclusive.
BEHIND when applied to a player means, unless otherwise stated, that both feet are behind the position in question. Similarly “in front” implies “with both feet”. When applied to a position on the field of play, “behind” means nearer to one’s own goal line than the point in question. Similarly “in front of” means nearer to one’s opponents’ goal line.
OUT OF PLAY: 10. (h) Any player who is in front of the kicker in play-the-ball general play is not permitted to advance beyond the point of the play-the-ball until the ball has gone past the off side player.
SECTION 8 - THE KICK OFF AND DROP-OUT
The ball may be kicked in any manner and in any direction and is immediately in play. Opposing players shall retire ten metres from the 20m line and shall not advance until the ball has been kicked. Defending players shall not advance in front of the ball before it is kicked. Any deliberate offence by either team shall incur a penalty to be awarded at the centre of the 20m line.

cant wait for next weeks 'ask stuart'

We where sat in line with that kick when Smith "scored" being amongst loads of Leeds supporters they went up as one. I looked at some Cas supporters nearby and we both said as one "offside" and it was. You can argue until next years grand final and the score will stand and crap does happen but that was just robbery. The game had everything in it, defences where on top and it took an odd lapse in concentration to allow teams to score. Francis Meli made a couple that cost them IHMO the match, that tap out just before the break that Leeds scored off, was a killer.

The atmosphere last night was good, the Leeds fans did keep that going I only heard the Saints fans a couple of times, but again I was closer to the Rhino herd. Good selection of fans last night and I did not see any aggro to speak of, just fans mingling together and having a good time. The crowd was down a little , there is a recession on remember and just going with a family to Old Trafford don't come cheap. I thought the crowd held up well all things considering and this is the third time these two teams have staged the final waltz of the season. Some fans are getting tired of going, indeed Saints have been there four years on the trot it must get a tad too much.


Oh they should be so lucky

As they say; if you believe that..............................

you're not suggesting he's not being totaly honest are you?

Best team won even though the VR decision at the end was a bad one. Best game I have seen all season, thought it was a cracking game to round off an average season for SL.

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Of course not Neil, just as I wasn't when suggesting emotion got the better of him (all that extra cash they miss out on!!).....and up to the cock up by Bentham I agree, it was the best game of the season we've seen this year as Paul says.............grannyfan Cindy

Best grand final forra few seasons imo, i was in the leeds end and thought atmosphere was good, had a decent laugh with the loiners that were around us even though they knew we was'nt bothered who won, video ref was a bad call but still thought best team won, like alot of rugby league fans i think the prestige stakes should be league first, cc cup second and play off final third, not the other way round as it is in todays game but albeit its still a great achievement to win 3 premierships on the bounce.