correct

still a benefit in kind, even if he lives there rent free.

It will count im affraid.

otherwise everyone would be doing that

I believe the club has 4 houses in total, as investments, none of which have been included in the past caps, Danny Tickle is I know in one, they pay a peppercorn rent I believe.

What's he going to coach them to do? Drink, gamble or womanize? I think he's capable of being what we need on the field, but certainly not a coach to act as a role model for the kids.

Everyone who has lived life and is male has probably had periods in their teens / twenties when they have drunk and womanised even Wayne Bennett ( I don't know this for ceratin but I am sure he has not been a wall flower all his life). I would suggest that his wisdom and experience will assist him in helping players to see the error of their ways. You can't kid a kidder and all that.

He has been there and done it and worn the t shirt several times and I am certain that providing he has learnt from that experience he will be an ideal coach.

He is teaching them how to play rugby, not getting them through finishing school.

this post was about sean long as a player there is no doubt about the benefit of his wisdom and what he could do for the young players . will he be that missing link that we need as a player I hope i am wrong .

It was over a year ago, but he told me he had bought the house that Matt Sing was staying in on Pickering Road.

They will be playing whilst balancing his book on their heads. Kills two birds with one stone: more sales and good deportment when on the field of play.

to the 1st poster ,Long was the best out there available for the club to sign and although i worry about injuries and his age ,he is a proven 7 and i thought he was the difference last night between wigan and saints,kimorley has done a great job this year, when he was supposed to be finished so i hope Long can do the same for us ,the club did the right thing signing him ,can i ask if we hadnt of gone for long who would u have brought in instead

who is available nowadays depends how much money your offering,as i dont know Hull Fc accounts and salary cap available, hard to say . This post was about an actual signing not one of the thousands of rumours. The fact is we have signed Sean Long not one of the thousand rumours, so my point was, will he be that missing link that we are looking for . If i was to stab in the dark at who would i prefer evryone has there price so would have thrown money at Finch or even stefan ratchford who i think will be very good next year.

The scrum halves plying their trade in SL this season are not a world class group:
Burrow
Long
Robinson
Dobson
Leuluai
Brough
Sherwin
Bosc
Orr
Monaghan
Deacon
Thorman
Myler
Van Dijk

If it were straightforward to capture the best playmakers from the NRL, everyone would be doing it. Whilst he's past his best, Long is as much a threat in any given match as any of that list IMO, for his unpredictability if nothing else, and miles better than what we've had available in the last couple of years.

good comeback





think those from the East are maybe getting a bit worried

Neither Finch or Ratchford are organising halves there both stand offs for me. I'm not saying either of them aren't good players cos they are but we've been crying out for an organiser since Cooke left and the two you've mentioned aren't that type of player.

I'd say Finch is, but agree on Ratchford, he's more of a running stand off.

Cooke is the type of player we are really lacking for next season in my opinion as is Ratchford, we need a player who can provide the outside backs with quality ball, look at how well Yeaman performed playing outside Cooke and with other backs such as Hall, Raynor, Calderwood and Briscoe we could have a deadly backline, at the moment having Horne at 6 I dont think we will use them to there potential.

Hopefully Long will have the impact Dykes had although I think Long will have a bit more quality around him then Dykes had to work with, he was the best available option for a club of our size, peopel mentioned the likes of Orford and Prince but it was never going to happen, a very good short term signing in my opinion.

Benefits count towards the cap

My mistake, I forgot how important binge drinking was to be a successful RL player. We'll miss Thackeray, King and Tommy Lee badly next season with only only Longy and Tickle to positively influence the team down the Weir. Maybe we'll get lucky and Michael Smith will come out of retirement to help us out. If we don't develop a drinking clique early on, we may not achieve 3rd from bottom again.

Banned

still plenty of binge drinkers left in the squad including the ring leader, who appears to have been missed out in the selective cull that went on



Amazing how some people are still taken in by the spin coming from the club and certain players alledged antics

it not always just as simple as throwing cash at it the player has to be available clubs are not just letting go quailty players ,saint have let long go because of his age simple ,young quality half backs are a rare thing thats why wolves have just paid a lot of money for a unproven kid in myler ,i think thre club where tracking a couple of oversea players but decided on long due to the fact he was available with no visa issues and wouldnt count on the quota good call i think ,and yes i think he could well be the missing link if he stays fit and he should have a good platform to work with from a great looking pack ,looking forward to a fresh looking side next year with plenty of exsperience and winners in there

Raggy takes no spin, i can assure you of that!

I can only judge on the players I have seen out drinking with my own eyes. I have yet to see Berro out getting ratted although I'm quite sure it's happened. I have definitely seen the others out drinking and one of them smoking. I have not heard any spin whatsoever come from the club regarding the drink culture.

Remember you joining our board Mark and I'm sure he was only taking you at your word from your first post, remember telling us all that you were a novice and needed advice from us all?? West Hull Fans have really good memories you know, especially when we have the back up of all your postings. I'm sure he'll always give you the benefit of any knowledge you may need, as would anyone of the fans, we all like to welcome all comers to our fan base........grannyfan Cindy

what a strange thread.

long has been the best half back we, england, has produced in a decade.

sure hes no spring chicken but he leads his side about better then anyone else in super league.

ratchford? not yet and he's a 6, finch? doesn't want to come to england and again is a better 6.