If we was to get a player like say Brent Kite I would understand the club letting Big Sam go, other wise get him signed

Really?

You think he is that good? Granted he is playing well but he still has everything to prove imo. He has done well for 5/6 matches and that's all at the minute.

For me it would depend on what position they were lookng at recruiting in. There was talk of a centre but with the current options we have I am not sure that would be a good move.

After Friday's performance and despite the views that there's no room for sentiment in sport, I'd sign Moa up. His efforts on and off the field, his commitment and general enthusiasm needs to be rewarded with a contract. He's only gonna get better. He's fitting in well and the 3 South Sea Islanders clearly get on well together, he'll be loyal too. As a friend pointed out you seem to get the best out of them when there is a small contingent as opposed to singly.

i would think Kosh meant that it would have to be a good quota player rather than a Byrne/Cusack/Tony

LMS certainly quietened down when he saw Radders run in

I said [iin terms of potential benefit to the squad[/i not out-and-out quality.

Moa is a relatively inexpensive player with bags of potential in a position where we badly lack what he brings. That amplifies his value to the squad IMO, and would put him ahead of a better player in a different position - unless that player was very special. For example, I'd take Moa over an overseas centre any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Moa was signed as a "project" to prove himself .
He has done that . He should be rewarded with another contract.

There was a piece on this about Leeds a while back (I think it was the SLS a couple of seasons ago). Basically saying that Tony Smith realised the value of this with the likes of Lauitiiti, Webb, Toopi and Leuluai. Something about the family culture and bonding the polynesians tend to establish.

Unless we can sign a centre or 1/2 back who will be 1st choice next season I can't see the point in letting Moa go. He's come on leaps and bounds and in a couple of years will be even better.

If he goes, we'll end up playing Lauaki at prop whereas I'd rather see him at 2nd row and used for impact.

We're also likely to be losing cusack at the end of next season, so I think it would be worth hanging onto him next year with a view to the future. Could be the kind of player who will be here for teh rest of his career

Lauaki, manu and moa were all at hilltop watching cott on saturday too, so they do spend a lot of time to gether, and must help them. Berro was also there, sat in a pram!!

Nail on the head.

Spot on, I really fear playing Lauaki at prop when he is so blatantly a second row.

personally im happy with our centre options. so moa must get signed up for me. 23 is baby age for a prop. imagine after he's had a proper off season which he neverhad last year,plus working with o meley can only help. plus the tongans together can push each other on. cost wise he be fairly cheap,so could then make sure whiting stays,the rest ooc can leave for me. keep these 2 i'll be happy

agree 100%. thought that straight away. imagine him running wide on 1 side, and willi on the other. teams wouldn't be able to muscle up both sides at the same time making space for centres and wingers! im already thinkin about next season. quite deppressing really

Can anyone see agar dropping radford to play lauaki in the 2nd row?

I'm still hoping Radford is going, anywhere.

Nope.

He'll be a bench player, can't see him starting at all.

What's going to happen with Dowes? Can't see him getting many games barring when injuries happen.

Cusack
Berro
O'Meley
Manu
Radders
Fitz

is what I can see him going with. Just to accomodate Radders in the team.

For me I'd like;

Cusack
Berro
O'Meley
Manu
Fitz
Washy

Bench;
Moa
Luauki
Houghton
(another, can't think who though) I've obviously forgotten someone obvious but don't know who.

This is why I don't see him signing Moa again.

agar will see his pack like this

Props

cusack
dowes
lauaki
o'meley
king?
thackray?
(I'm assuming these 2 will be gone)

with radford as back up

Back row

fitzgibbon
radford
manu
tickle?
washbrook
burnett

I can't see him leaving these out when they are fit:

radford
fitzgibbon
cusack
dowes
lauaki
manu
o'meley

If we don't have injury probalems the I think washy and burnett won't feature much next season

He won't drop dowes

Indeed.

Possibly the first name on the team sheet every week.

cusack, berrigan, o'meley, radford, fitzgibbon, washbrook sub dowes, lauaki, manu, houghton back up moa, burnett, kent, whiting, turner, hodgson, stamp? Would do for forwards. I dont expect the pack and bench to be those positions but I do expect those personnel.

So yet again we'll have no proper go forward until the subs come on again, unless he does still start with the Orge.

He'll play washy at 1/2 back if long or horne are injured so expect radford at LF for a chunk of the season

Washy goes to half back and fitzgibbon doesn't go to 13 agar's worse than we all think.