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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I fail to see how anyone can still justify supporting Agar as Head Coach.
He has failed in all aspects of the job.'"
The same people who say we should keep King I'd imagine.
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| Quote ="Standee"Wasn't directed at just Paul.
For the right money Bennet would come.'"
I seriously doubt that.
The point is that in the NRL there are a number of world class coaches, the question is could we attract one of those. I don't know but if you look at other team's head coaches in SL there are not many (if any) that I would deem as world class. The reason is that most coaches in the NRL will not move over to SL as they deem the NRL the place to be. Some might move for the money but even then it would only be very few. An NRL coach has just about every facility he could desire within his grasp whereas over here we are lacking. Kearney said a year or so that this is one reason he would not want to come over to SL at this stage of his career.
You don't have to sign a Bennet or a Bellamy, you only have to look at someone like Daniel Anderson or Tony Smith. Neither were particularly highly rated yet did a magnificent job overe here. Nathan Brown was seen as an undercheiver at the Dragons, they had a great roster and played some decent rugby but never really achieved any success yet he has done a great job at Hudds.
We won't get Bellamy or Bennett but we could get a very good coach from the NRL, that is not accepting mediocrity it's simply being smart.
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| Quote ="Standee"Wasn't directed at just Paul.
For the right money Bennet would come.'"
But Hull don't have a spare £500k knocking about
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| I'd go to Aus, talk to the likes of Swain, Kearney, Stirling, Smith, Hasler etc etc and ask who they think would be the best for the job. They know the area, they know what the fans are like, their expectations, beliefs on how rugby should be played etc etc and also have a good standing in the game and have a trust worthy judgement especially if you add all their opinions together. If most of them mention the same guy then you know you have the right man for the job
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| Quote ="Standee"Wasn't directed at just Paul.
For the right money Bennet would come.'"
But the problem is you're not seeing beyond anything but the money aspect. For some that's the case, for others, not so much.
IIRC, Bennett's family situation with his disabled chidren is such that he pretty much has no intention of ever leaving Australia. And he's a good coach, but I don't think he's good enough to do it via telephone and email.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"But the problem is you're not seeing beyond anything but the money aspect. For some that's the case, for others, not so much.
IIRC, Bennett's family situation with his disabled chidren is such that he pretty much has no intention of ever leaving Australia. And he's a good coach, but I don't think he's good enough to do it via telephone and email.'"
Spot on! Althought the bit about email and telephone may still be an improvement.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Spot on! Althought the bit about email and telephone may still be an improvement.'"
Throw in a webcam and I reckon we'd improve out of sight.
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| Quote ="The Key"I'd go to Aus, talk to the likes of Swain, Kearney, Stirling, Smith, Hasler etc etc and ask who they think would be the best for the job. They know the area, they know what the fans are like, their expectations, beliefs on how rugby should be played etc etc and also have a good standing in the game and have a trust worthy judgement especially if you add all their opinions together. If most of them mention the same guy then you know you have the right man for the job'"
That would seem a very realistic way of searching for a new coach. I dare say these guys may know who is up for a challenge in the UK and if they tick the right boxes.
Hell they may even sell the club to a potential coach...
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| Quote ="Derek Rigby"........who would it be?????
My top 3 (at the moment) would be
1. Wayne Bennett - proven it wasn't just the team at the Bronco's
2. Brian Smith - turned the fortunes round for another average side
3. Shaun Edwards - would bring huge respect, what hasn't he achieved'"
I would not call Warrington an average side, I bet you would swap their squad for for the one you have now. Can't believe you can call Warrington or Huddersfield an average side. They are playing in the CC final. Average?
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| Quote ="The Key"I'd go to Aus, talk to the likes of Swain, Kearney, Stirling, Smith, Hasler etc etc and ask who they think would be the best for the job. They know the area, they know what the fans are like, their expectations, beliefs on how rugby should be played etc etc and also have a good standing in the game and have a trust worthy judgement especially if you add all their opinions together. If most of them mention the same guy then you know you have the right man for the job'"
That's a good call....but we all know the board don't like to recognise ex players of our beloved club, despite that players stature in the game
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| Quote ="raynor the crab"I would not call Warrington an average side, I bet you would swap their squad for for the one you have now. Can't believe you can call Warrington or Huddersfield an average side. They are playing in the CC final. Average?
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Read it again.
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| Quote ="raynor the crab"I would not call Warrington an average side, I bet you would swap their squad for for the one you have now. Can't believe you can call Warrington or Huddersfield an average side. They are playing in the CC final. Average?
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Brian Smith..............not Tony Smith
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Dear o dear o dear, and you even put smug smiley faces at the end of it
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OK so I am a bit embarrassed now but none of the coaches you lot have suggested will ever come. You are now living for the past and not the present. 3 major finals in four years, 14 k crowds blah blah blah. When are things going to change as long as Rule and co are at the helm. Would the sensible thing be to try and build for the future again? How are the signings of two 32 year olds going to do that. I reckon you were the only club that offered Long a contract, who else would sign on a 33 year old. Ok there are some exceptions eg Menzies, Rauhihi. Also, the re-signing of Cusack has used up a quota spot which could be valuable with a reduced quota for nest season.
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| Quote ="raynor the crab"OK so I am a bit embarrassed now but none of the coaches you lot have suggested will ever come. You are now living for the past and not the present. 3 major finals in four years, 14 k crowds blah blah blah. When are things going to change as long as Rule and co are at the helm. Would the sensible thing be to try and build for the future again? How are the signings of two 32 year olds going to do that. I reckon you were the only club that offered Long a contract, who else would sign on a 33 year old. Ok there are some exceptions eg Menzies, Rauhihi. Also, the re-signing of Cusack has used up a quota spot which could be valuable with a reduced quota for nest season.'"
Do us a favour, come back when your accounts are filed and your Parasol has folded
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| Quote ="Standee"Do us a favour, come back when your accounts are filed and your Parasol has folded
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Sure but can you do me a favour as well. Come back when you complete a double over St. Helens. I will be waiting a long time
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| Quote ="raynor the crab"Sure but can you do me a favour as well. Come back when you complete a double over St. Helens.
I will be waiting a long time
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Doesn't matter, you still haven't won anything, not going to be much solace when you're back in the doldrums.
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| Quote ="raynor the crab"OK so I am a bit embarrassed now but none of the coaches you lot have suggested will ever come. You are now living for the past and not the present. 3 major finals in four years, 14 k crowds blah blah blah. When are things going to change as long as Rule and co are at the helm. Would the sensible thing be to try and build for the future again? How are the signings of two 32 year olds going to do that. I reckon you were the only club that offered Long a contract, who else would sign on a 33 year old. Ok there are some exceptions eg Menzies, Rauhihi. Also, the re-signing of Cusack has used up a quota spot which could be valuable with a reduced quota for nest season.'"
I just love how fickle they are
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_lol.gif I just love how fickle they are
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| Quote ="Standee"Indeed, how is the 10 - 5 restaurant doing nowadays?'"
Probably a roaring trade feeding 2 jags
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"IIRC, Bennett's family situation with his disabled chidren is such that he pretty much has no intention of ever leaving Australia. And he's a good coach, but I don't think he's good enough to do it via telephone and email.'" Yeah he does it was the main reason he moved to the Dragons as his daughter lives in Sydney.
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| Quote ="raynor the crab"OK so I am a bit embarrassed now but none of the coaches you lot have suggested will ever come. You are now living for the past and not the present. 3 major finals in four years, 14 k crowds blah blah blah. When are things going to change as long as Rule and co are at the helm. Would the sensible thing be to try and build for the future again? How are the signings of two 32 year olds going to do that. I reckon you were the only club that offered Long a contract, who else would sign on a 33 year old. Ok there are some exceptions eg Menzies, Rauhihi. Also, the re-signing of Cusack has used up a quota spot which could be valuable with a reduced quota for nest season.'"
Clearly you know very little then. School hols must be over soon - wasn't aware the 'PC into every home' government scheme had started already?
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| Quote ="raynor the crab"OK so I am a bit embarrassed now but none of the coaches you lot have suggested will ever come. You are now living for the past and not the present. 3 major finals in four years, 14 k crowds blah blah blah. When are things going to change as long as Rule and co are at the helm. Would the sensible thing be to try and build for the future again? How are the signings of two 32 year olds going to do that. I reckon you were the only club that offered Long a contract, who else would sign on a 33 year old. Ok there are some exceptions eg Menzies, Rauhihi. Also, the re-signing of Cusack has used up a quota spot which could be valuable with a reduced quota for nest season.'"
Apart from St Helens, you mean.
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