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| Quote ="wolfie"guess after reading 3 pages nobody actualy knows why hes been sent out on loan then.'" no but do tell?
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| Quote ="The Brother"go on then but i'll tell you we are around half a million under cap'"
I think you're wrong. But we'll not know for sure for another 12 months.
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| Quote ="wolfie"guess after reading 3 pages nobody actualy knows why hes been sent out on loan then.'"
Well, no. Clearly. And there's no obvious reason that makes any sense. So if you have a suggestion that clears things up and makes the decision look less stupid it might be worth sharing.
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| Quote ="Kosh"So you keep saying, although oddly the figure is staying constant despite loan deals, signings, and transfer fees. There may also be some cash set aside to pay off contracts for the deadwood that everyone wants rid of.
This year's accounts will make interesting reading when they're released.'"
i agree with that, but a club of our size shouldn't be underspending by that amount at the start of the season on the salary cap
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think you're wrong. But we'll not know for sure for another 12 months.'"
Im not, we are massively under the cap
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| Quote ="The Brother"were half a million under cap'"
I thought we planned to be there or thereabouts on it. Crocker can't have been on much more than £170k and I can't imagine paying off Byrne will have saved much. Something doesn't add up here, unless it's just all the win bonus savings we've made.
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| Quote ="The Brother"go on then but i'll tell you we are around half a million under cap'"
I'm interested to know how and when you saw all the player's contracts. Genuinely interested. Also how you know how much Todd Byrne's severance agreement was. And how much we are paying Cordoba/Broughton etc. You'll understand that it is difficult to accept your claim when the information you claim to know would be confidential.
As for Maloney - surprising although it may have been something he was looking for. He may know he is to be released. Maybe Halifax are interested in 'trialling' him for next year ? I don't know. Put his heart into the games I've seen him play, which is more than some for sure, but not big enough for SL prop.
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| Quote ="The Brother"Im not, we are massively under the cap'"
I'm sure you feel that your source is solid, but for me the figures don't add up. We know for a fact that we were up to (and indeed over) the cap in the recent past, and most of the big earners from then are either still here or have been replaced by players on similarly large contracts. Apart from Crocker, where has all the extra cash been saved?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I'm interested to know how and when you saw all the player's contracts. Genuinely interested. Also how you know how much Todd Byrne's severance agreement was. And how much we are paying Cordoba/Broughton etc. You'll understand that it is difficult to accept your claim when the information you claim to know would be confidential.
As for Maloney - surprising although it may have been something he was looking for. He may know he is to be released. Maybe Halifax are interested in 'trialling' him for next year ? I don't know. Put his heart into the games I've seen him play, which is more than some for sure, but not big enough for SL prop.'"
Smart ar$e i don't need to see the contracts of every player to know we are way off the cap, quite suprising who and what you get to know, but hey you go along with the spin doctor im sure he could convince you otherwise
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| Quote ="The Brother"Smart ar$e i don't need to see the contracts of every player to know we are way off the cap, quite suprising who and what you get to know, but hey you go along with the spin doctor im sure he could convince you otherwise'"
Me the smart ar$e ?
Fook me it aint me claiming to know this that and the other on here
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| Quote ="The Brother"Smart ar$e i don't need to see the contracts of every player to know we are way off the cap, quite suprising who and what you get to know, but hey you go along with the spin doctor im sure he could convince you otherwise'"
If you haven't seen documentary evidence then you're just taking someone's word for it. That may be enough for you but I prefer hard evidence or at least something that tallies with the facts in the public domain.
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| Quote ="Kosh"If you haven't seen documentary evidence then you're just taking someone's word for it. That may be enough for you but I prefer hard evidence or at least something that tallies with the facts in the public domain.'"
I know were the info came from, so beleive me he should know
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Me the smart ar$e ?
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And i never claimed to have seen everyone's contract, but what i do know is collectivley way,way under cap
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| Quote ="The Brother"And i never claimed to have seen everyone's contract, but what i do know is collectivley way,way under cap'"
You don't "know" it though. You "believe" it.
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| Quote ="The Brother"go on then but i'll tell you we are around half a million under cap'" berrigan, lauaki,Horne, yeaman, cusack,tony, raynor, byrne and washbrook. Easy a million there, then there's the likes of calderwood, thacks, king, dowes, thorman etc...
Oh, and I forgot captain fantastic.
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| Quote ="The Brother"I know were the info came from, so beleive me he should know'"
I've known any number of people who 'should know' that have got things wrong. Even on here we had a director being quoted as a source when someone claimed that Crocker had got his visa and was in the UK.
You're relying on someone else's information, interpretation of that information, understanding, and agenda. Risky business.
Did you even get the info direct from the person in question or via a third party?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"berrigan, lauaki,Horne, yeaman, cusack,tony, raynor, byrne and washbrook. Easy a million there, then there's the likes of calderwood, thacks, king, dowes, thorman etc...'"
Not a chance there is a million there
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| Does this mean Agar as seen sense and will now play Radford at prop, where he belongs. Freeing up space for a proper loose forward in the team?
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| I remember a fans meet the players night at Boulevard (yes, meet the players, free entry) I think it was 2001 Richo was there, he stated the wage bill was at around £1.4 million. (this was the season we brought in Richie Barnett x 2 i remeber the "dicks in the team" joke aimed at them, Swain and Fletcher)
He actually stated that the following season the wage bill would be less!
Now as has been mentioned elsewhere on this board look at the wonderfull talent we had at the club, we scored points for fun, McCrae was actually doing a good job with our youth, rather than sacking them off to the NL1
That was with a playing salary cap of less than £1.4 miilion.
Richo did say how the staduim would allow us to operate at the cap max and would give us an even better team!
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Does this mean Agar as seen sense and will now play Radford at prop, where he belongs. Freeing up space for a proper loose forward in the team?'"
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| Quote ="The Brother"Not a chance there is a million there'" ooooooookkkkkkaaaaayyyy, you go on what you think you know I'll wait and see! Although rule said on KCFM a while back that because "were at full cap, until the crocker situation sorts itself out our hands are tied".
Now do you think crocker was going to be on between 4-500k?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"berrigan, lauaki,Horne, yeaman, cusack,tony, raynor, byrne and washbrook. Easy a million there, '"
about £700k i reckon
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Does this mean Agar as seen sense and will now play Radford at prop, where he belongs. Freeing up space for a proper loose forward in the team?'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Manu
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"i would be amazed if we kept him ,we need some real aggresion in the pack and go forward i just can not see him offering that i see our props been
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But out of them only O'meley, Lauaki and Moa offer any kind of go forward.
Quote ="TKOAH"Does this mean Agar as seen sense and will now play Radford at prop, where he belongs. Freeing up space for a proper loose forward in the team?'"
We have a 'proper loose forward' in Danny Washbrook.
Radford shouldn't be in the squad, let alone playing at prop.
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