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| Quote ="Captain Dave"Hall has to a degree been made a scapegoat by Agar.
Even during his tenure , Peter Sharp openly criticised Hall in the media for various failings - not the best way to nurture young talent IMO.
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Not quite. Sharp correctly pointed out after a game at Harlequins that missed goal kicks were the difference between winning and losing. It was the game in 2007 were we lost 28-30 and Hall missed 4 from 6 conversions.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Has just produced a superb pass out of the back of his hand for penny to score...........and just pinged the touchline conversion.'"
Forward pass.
Tbh he did little else in the game.
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| Quote ="Captain Dave"Hall has to a degree been made a scapegoat by Agar.
Even during his tenure , Peter Sharp openly criticised Hall in the media for various failings - not the best way to nurture young talent IMO.
Maybe they were just taking the lead from Kath Hetherington who evidently had some disparaging opionions of Hull born players .'"
No, he didn't. Try getting the facts and making up your own mind rather than being led by what gets posted on here.
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| Quote ="Kosh"No, he didn't. Try getting the facts and making up your own mind rather than being led by what gets posted on here.'"
He did have a pop at him after a Quins game after he'd missed a couple of conversions.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"He did have a pop at him after a Quins game after he'd missed a couple of conversions.'"
No, he didn't. If you can find a transcript of that press conference have a read. He was widely misquoted and his comments taken out of context.
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| Quote ="Kosh"No, he didn't. If you can find a transcript of that press conference have a read. He was widely misquoted and his comments taken out of context.'"
Ahhh...i see.........that old chestnut
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| Last week G Horne has a worst game than I have ever seen Hall have at centre, the next week what hapeens he keeps his place in the 13.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Ahhh...i see.........that old chestnut
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In fact I think he was asked if the missed kicks cost them and he agreed that as we missed 4 from 6 (at least 2 of which were fairly simple) that they had cost us. He certainly didn't say anything like "Hall cost us the game".
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Ahhh...i see.........that old chestnut
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It's the truth. But you're good at dismissing things you don't want to believe with a glib phrase and a couple of smileys, aren't you?
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| Quote ="Kosh"It's the truth. But you're good at dismissing things you don't want to believe with a glib phrase and a couple of smileys, aren't you?'"
Ahhhh bless.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Ahhhh bless.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Erm, at least you didn't prove Kosh's point in your very next post. Oh, wait...'"
He can't help himself.
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| Thought I'd give you a report card on Hall, he's been very good for us (I know it's a lower division) but considering your current plight I'm suprised he couldn't get into the team. Very quick, great pair of hands and a superb goal kicker.
Can we have him back yet please?
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| Did he look a class above in your league? Just someone the other day said they thought he'd found his level in NL1.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"Thought I'd give you a report card on Hall, he's been very good for us (I know it's a lower division) but considering your current plight I'm suprised he couldn't get into the team. Very quick, great pair of hands and a superb goal kicker.
Can we have him back yet please?'"
No, but 16 first team players you can
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| at least thats one hull player thats gunna be in a final this season.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"Superb is a bit far, he hasn't really done that much.'"
oh yes he has, hall has been brilliant since his loan, and i am sure that like me there are many chemics fans who wish he was still with us, best of luck for the future craig and i hope to see you back with us one day.
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| it sounds a good combo,hall and penny?both the right age,plenty of pace,admit they are a bit raw,but i wouldn't say no to kevin penny coming next season.at the right price/salary.raynor and calderwood are not getting any younger,and penny is english too.what does anyone else think?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"In fact I think he was asked if the missed kicks cost them and he agreed that as we missed 4 from 6 (at least 2 of which were fairly simple) that they had cost us. He certainly didn't say anything like "Hall cost us the game".'"
"2 fairly simple missed goals cost us" = "Our goal kicker missed 2 fairly simple goals which cost us" = "Hall missed 2 fairly simple goals which cost us"
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr""2 fairly simple missed goals cost us" = "Our goal kicker missed 2 fairly simple goals which cost us" = "Hall missed 2 fairly simple goals which cost us"
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Try reading it again numbnuts.
He actually pointed out several reasons why we lost that game but when asked about the goal kicking he pointed out (quite rightly) that we outscored them 6 tries to 4 (IIRC) and the missed conversations were a factor in why we lost.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Try reading it again numbnuts.
He actually pointed out several reasons why we lost that game but when asked about the goal kicking he pointed out (quite rightly) that we outscored them 6 tries to 4 (IIRC) and the missed conversations were a factor in why we lost.'"
I was merely pointing out what you said is essentially the same thing...
Quote ="Robbo4"In fact I think he was asked if the missed kicks cost them and he agreed that as we missed 4 from 6 (at least 2 of which were fairly simple) that they had cost us. He certainly didn't say anything like "Hall cost us the game".'"
No mention of "several reasons" or "different factors" there. How did Craig feel about it at the time?
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"I was merely pointing out what you said is essentially the same thing...
No mention of "several reasons" or "different factors" there. How did Craig feel about it at the time?
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Pointing out what I said and somehow attributing that to what P.Sharp said is why you are a numbnuts
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| Hall should defo be in the starting 13 this week imo. We've missed somebody with abit of punch in attack, and no disrespect to celtic, but I think Hall could tear them to pieces out wide. G.Horne on the other hand, offers absolutely nothing at centre, (and never has) he's not even a solid defender any more, you only have to look at his attempted 'tackle' on matt king at wire a few weeks back, and how senior completely owned him last week, to realise that. Hall never did anything wrong to be dropped in the first place, he was thrown in at full back (were he actually did well) and as soon as he started to make errors, it was bye bye into the reserves. If we treated all of our players like this, they would all be in the reserves as everybody makes mistakes, however it seems Hall is made the scapegoat more often that not. He has been unfairly treated at FC, and I for one wouldnt blame him if he decided to move elsewhere (even KR).
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