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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"City only officially sold out once last season. No need for expansion simple as. Yes I would prefer our own ground but the kc is our home now and it is the envy of the league.'"
Wrong
We sold out every home game apart from 1 IIRC, it was also the same for away games everyone was sold out apart from 2 or 3 i think
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| Quote ="CityFC"Pleanty of Stadiums have been extended without having to close stands. Newcastle United's St James park is a great example of that.
As for the extension not happening? If you think that it won't, you are kidding yourself.'"
Think it will be atleast 2 years before the council even start to plan expanding the stadium cause they will wait for us establish in the PL first.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Wrong
We sold out every home game apart from 1 IIRC, it was also the same for away games everyone was sold out apart from 2 or 3 i think'"
And ask the proper City fans how they feel about away direct being booted into touch all bar the orginal 41
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Wrong
We sold out every home game apart from 1 IIRC, it was also the same for away games everyone was sold out apart from 2 or 3 i think'" so why is it that 24945 people attended the united game, yet the average was 24816? So all but the united game did not sell out, it may only be 100 seats but still not sold out. When united have a 76,000 all seated stadium but there are over 100,000 applications for tickets, now that's grounds for expansion.
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| To justify an expansion at the KC, Hull City must stay in the premier league for another 2 seasons at least before anything is decided. They need the premier league's TV money and need to be secure in it first.
If they had gone down this season, I really don't think they would've come back. Then they would be playing in front of 15-20 thousand empty seats too
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| Quote ="CityFC"PD was on Humberside lately saying that the original designers were drawing up the plans to take the Stadium capacity to either 40,000 or 45,000.'"
The reason that these plans are being drawn up is to show the FA that the KC can be expanded above 40,000 as that is the minimum capacity for a ground holding a World cup match.
Do you honestly believe that the KC will be picked to hold any world cup fixtures if the FA actually is picked to hold the 2018 World cup, Certain elements of the premiership don't even think City should be in the premiership let alone that the KC stadium should be allowed to hold such fixtures.
And the only way the KC will ever be expanded to 40,000+ is if it actually gets these fixtures otherwise forget it as although City are able to draw full houses on a 25,000 stadium the max the stadium will increase is by 7,000 and that will only be after City have managed to stay in the premiership for another couple of seasons and then the council will hope to get funding to help expand the stadium so don't expect the capacity to raise anytime soon..
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"so why is it that 24945 people attended the united game, yet the average was 24816? So all but the united game did not sell out, it may only be 100 seats but still not sold out. When united have a 76,000 all seated stadium but there are over 100,000 applications for tickets, now that's grounds for expansion.'"
The lowest League attenadance was 24282. That was lower than the rest of the games due to Wigan not selling all their tickets.
Season tickets were limited to 20500 and the Club could have sold quite a few more. Like it or not, with City in the Premier League, the KC will be/was full every Home League game.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Do we have to have this debate every other friggin week.
The KC Stadium is our home. Whether it remains at 25,000 or is increased to 40,000 we are staying there and thank God. It's the best RL ground in the country.'"
well said mate, its so tedious when this topic comes up all the time.
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| Quote ="CityFC"The lowest League attenadance was 24282. That was lower than the rest of the games due to Wigan not selling all their tickets.
Season tickets were limited to 20500 and the Club could have sold quite a few more. Like it or not, with City in the Premier League, the KC will be/was full every Home League game.'"
Your right but the problem city have is if they drop a division plenty of fans wont carry on getting passes etc. as seen by the mad rush for tickets as soon as people knew they where staying up. for a club to spend £40mill on the ground when they need it for players to stay in the league to fill the ground is a no brainer. if the stadium expands it will be bit by bit
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| Quote ="Forever FC"Your right but the problem city have is if they drop a division plenty of fans wont carry on getting passes etc. as seen by the mad rush for tickets as soon as people knew they where staying up. for a club to spend £40mill on the ground when they need it for players to stay in the league to fill the ground is a no brainer. if the stadium expands it will be bit by bit'"
Can't really disagree there, but it has to be said that over 19,000 season ticket holders re-newed before they knew which League City would be playing in next season.
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| Still waiting for an answer
[size=150Who is going to pay for it .......................... ?[/size
Try working out how much city and SMC will make on the extra seats per season and set that against the cost of building
10k x 20 games at £25 say = around £500,000 extra revenue for a spending around £15 million ....................... keep telling me Duffen will pay
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| Quote ="Ian P"Still waiting for an answer
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Try working out how much city and SMC will make on the extra seats per season and set that against the cost of building
10k x 20 games at £25 say = around £500,000 extra revenue for a spending around £15 million ....................... keep telling me Duffen will pay'"
Shouldn't that be £5,000,000?
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| Quote ="number 6"who's going to pay for it????
we will be at kc until our lease runs out and longer m'thinks'"
Duffen did approach HCC 2 months ago to review the piece of work that was done 12-24 months ago to price the expansion. He simply wanted the price re-working based on the current economic climate.
40000 was talked about as being the extension number with the additional seats being on the top of the east stand and then one of north or south stand i believe.
Any developments would be funded by Duffen. This doesnt impact Hull FC in any way other than our season possibly being disrupted by any developments. Will not be happening prior to the next premiership season though as far as im aware.
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| It will all go away when city lose the majority of thier games next season anyway.
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| Quote ="hullbg"It will all go away when city lose the majority of thier games next season anyway.'"
Probably more a case of that what you are hoping.
I prefare to see as much top flight sport based in our city as possible. Hosting games for the World Cup would be great for Kingston upon Hull.
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| The capacity can change due to how the segregate the away fans, number of stewards, sterile areas etc etc . I believe they also lost some space when the press area was extended and at televised games.
And obviusly if some SP holders/ Corps miss games
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| Don't really see city filling 24,000 even if they did stay up for a few years, wigans ground was full every home game in there first season up, it soon levelled out as it will for city.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Don't really see city filling 24,000 even if they did stay up for a few years, wigans ground was full every home game in there first season up, it soon levelled out as it will for city.'"
Disagree, City has a far wider catchment area for neutrals to go watch the game too. IMO they could fill 40k without a doubt consistently.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Disagree, City has a far wider catchment area for neutrals to go watch the game too. IMO they could fill 40k without a doubt consistently.'"
I don't think there is any chance that city could sell 40k tickets week in , week out. Maybe for the games against nal, liverpool and man u but not the rest
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| I dont think city could get 30k week in week out never mind 40.
leeds utd didnt sell out everyweek when they were in the premiership and i am of the opinion they were (and maybe stil are) a bigger club than city
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Disagree, City has a far wider catchment area for neutrals to go watch the game too. IMO they could fill 40k without a doubt consistently.'"
Not sure they'll get 40K consistently, but I'd reckon 25K will be a sellout for the forseeable future (as evidenced by the fact 19K odd passes were sold when there was still a chance they'd get relegated).
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| Quote ="CityFC"Probably more a case of that what you are hoping.
I prefare to see as much top flight sport based in our city as possible. Hosting games for the World Cup would be great for Kingston upon Hull.'"
Just saying how i see it. City were lucky very lucky to stay up, next season they will not start like they did this season so the odds are they will go down.
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| Quote ="redwhite&proud"not coming on here trolling and a bit o/t , but I read in the daily express today that paul duffen is in talks with HCC with regards to expanding the KC to 40k, I was wondering what you guys thought of this?
I was having a few drinks with a mate who is a hull fan and his thoughts were that if the extension was to be built then hull should move out.
there is no doubt that the kc is a fantastic ground and its not too bad as it is now when halfull but a 40k stadium with lets say your average gate of 14k sure is going to feel empty( a bit like hudds ground) and lacking in atmosphere.
we both came to a conclusion that , since hull would have a ground that is perhaps above their needs and kr have a ground that is somewhat lacking then would it not make sense to build a purpose built rugby ground for both clubs to share(not near c.p or the boulevard so as to be neutral). we both figured a ground capacity of say 18k with both seated and terraced areas would probably suffice for a new ground but with an option to use the kc for derby days and any other games that might significantly exceed the new grounds capacity.
I know there are probably many people on both sides of the river that would baulk at this idea but it I feel it would make financial sense to both clubs (I would presume you get a rent increase at the kc if expanded?)to share the costs of one ground. our only worry was that if the two clubs were to ground share then you might start to get the "well why not merge" question coming from the rfl?!(which I am totally against)
whats your thoughts? (if any!)'"
My thoughts are
The council build Hull City a new ground 40k
Hull FC and Hull KR share the KC...... (any new 18k not big enough for derby games) ....
Hull KR sells Craven Park and uses the dosh for whatever tickles their fancy
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| Quote ="Ian P"Still waiting for an answer
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Try working out how much city and SMC will make on the extra seats per season and set that against the cost of building
10k x 20 games at £25 say = around £500,000 extra revenue for a spending around £15 million ....................... keep telling me Duffen will pay'"
I was informed the club were given an estimate of around 7 million to build the extra stand so on your calculations after the first season it would have paid 5 million of that off.
I was also told the club were not going ahead with the building work until the club could manage to establish itself in this league anyway !
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Not sure they'll get 40K consistently, but I'd reckon 25K will be a sellout for the forseeable future (as evidenced by the fact 19K odd passes were sold when there was still a chance they'd get relegated).'"
They wont sell out every week but i reckon theyll get near to it for at least the first few seasons depending what kind of team they play and how they price the tickets. If i could get a ticket i'd definately pick and choose and go to some games, im sure others would too.
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