Berrigan
Crocker
Lauaki (or however it's spelt)

won't be cheap

likewise Horne, Byrne, Cusack, Tony, Radford, Tickle, Manu etc.

The only issue I have is the money available for a coach.

it's pi$$ing down more like

[iCHURCHILL wrote: It is the only way Rule and Kath will learn they can not just take this club as a money earner for themselves do you not think us the fans deserve more and if that means stop going then they will see we have had enough i think they should put the club up for sale we deserve better as fans[/i

Churchill sodding well didn't say that.

it's just a shame that there is no relegation


then the club would have to do some thing instead of just blowing hot air, i.e we won the cup we were in the final etc that is history we want success today as well.

oh what an embarrasment

how rovers have caught up and overtaken us in 2 seasons, where will thay be in the next 2 seasons while we wallow at the lower end

First of all this post isn't aimed necessarily at the op, but at the whinging fans in general. The club owe its fans nothing, the amount of people who expect the club to wait on them hand and foot, it really es me off. "Why havn't we been told about injuries," "we are the heart of this club," "I'm not spending my hard earned money when they can't be bothered."

I don't give a fook, and tbh its boring. You know what you are letting yourselves in for when you buy a ticket, if the team plays well and we win, then great, if not, its disappointing, but never mind you've seen a game and thats what you went for. No one makes you buy a ticket for a game, you do it out of choice, so when someone says we deserve better than we are getting, why? No one makes you go to games. If you don't think players are putting in effort then thats you opinion, but the reality is that this is a strong league we are in now, you look down the table and with the exception of Celtic you honestly don't know what the results are going to be. It's sport, some people do well and end up at the top, but unfortunatly for every winner there is a loser and you can't be happy all of the time. You have the best stadium in the league, will be in superleague indefinately in effect and because we've hit a bad patch people think the club is a "disgrace." Get a grip, this is a fantastic club and tbh the people who sit and hurl abuse at the players don't deserve to be accosiated with Hull FC.

As I've mentioned already this is sport, its entertainment, yet peoples jobs are on the line and people want coaches and players to be sacked just so that they can have bragging rights over Rovers. Someone mentioned in this thread about us being run like a football club. Who is responsible for that then? I'll let you work it out.

Spot on, as usual. Apart from the bit highlighted - only 2 winners and 12, or probably 13 losers.



IMO those suddenly withdrawing their support from the team in a sulk because we're not winning are akin to the Rovers fans deserting their club when they were in the mire, but are possibly worse - at least they waited until relegation. The team, for all its shortcomings in terms of creativity, are trying their best. Some are being inappropriately used due to the large number of unavailable players - Manu is being flogged to death and unable to produce his usual impact, Hall is out of position and low in confidence, Dowes is out on his feet after being played for 70 minutes week in week out, but you can't say they're not putting the effort in. Regardless of what you think of the coaching set-up, the team on the pitch needs support on the terraces more now than ever. Just my opinion, obviously, but abandoning ship now just looks a bit spoilt.

Bloody hell if this is the team trying their best, I would hate to see what sort of run we go on when they stop putting the effort in.

TBF the vast majority do seem to put the effort in. Unfortunately the team is so miss managed they don't stand a chance. Poor player recruitment, poor team selections and a none existent game plan, it's always going to be an up hill struggle.

Someone started early on the cooking wine!!!

Trying their best, my 'rse!

Apart from Saints, we've lost by 10,7,1,4 and 4 points in the last 5. That doesn't suggest lack of effort IMO. We're putting the effort in to stay in the arm-wrestle but don't have the nous to create the right pressure in attack or put on intelligent plays.

I would argue that the majority of the team don't put the required amount of effort in. After Friday's game I think only Washy, Berrigan, Dowes, Tickle, G Horne and Tommy Lee could have come away reasonably happy with their contribution. I may have missed one or two players, but even then it would be far from the vast majority.

I think it is a tricky one this.

IN any kind of weather does not necessarily blindly putting up with constant stupid decisions. I personally don't think I would ever just walk away, don't think that I could. However, I can understand the frustration. Something snapped in me on Friday and I am still not entirely sure what. I'll go to Salford, see what saturday brings.

I just feel, that in the Lloyd era, noone considered not following the club trhough thick and thin. There was a sense of comarardary I thought amongst the fans and players. Maybe I am wrong there. Now, I am not sure. There is a lot of bitterness and foreboding. Bad decisions. Lacklustre playing performances, something is very wrong behind the scenes I think..........

Excellent post MK.

Burnett and Calderwood were in most people's top 3. Thackray ran the ball in well. Was Yeaman's best game of late. Manu is knackered as he's being overplayed. He's an impact player. You can say that Whiting, Maloney, Hall, Radders, Broughton and Thorman weren't putting any effort in if you like, that's your opinion. My opinion is that Whiting's 2 games back from a year long lay-off, Maloney was playing only his second SL game, Hall's confidence is shot, Radders got through plenty of work, Broughton had 1 training session with the team and Thorman isn't the creator we need but you can't say he's not trying. Would the club rather have had Crocker, Lauaki, Tony, Raynor, Cusack and R Horne available? I think so. Quality is lacking on the pitch, and leadership both on and off it, but I don't think you can slate the effort. I've seen far far worse. 0-46 ring any bells?

Its not so much as a lack of effort but more of a lack of intensity and pressure. If we could cut out these silly errors we would have had far more ball and probably won all those games even playing dire rugby!

Just goes to show what we could be capable of if we actually played to our potential

Amen to that!

thats why people are monaing so much. Out of total frustration. Im sure the players feel the same too

During most games you'll see a spell were one team is seriously under the cosh. They start hanging back waiting in defence and panicking when they get the ball just trying to get to the end of the set to get a kick in. We seem to be like this for most of the game at the moment and that is down to mental preparation from the coaching staff.

it look like they have been told to defend like that though. The seem to try to hold a steady line yet not move up quickly to have any breaks in the line. While giving away a few extra yards at a time i think they trying to play the percentage of closing the half breaks out.

Terrible tictac

yet for the first 5 games we played the opposite and look what happened! Why did agar ever feel the need to change it?

id never defend like that, your just creating pressure against yourself. The other team gets a roll on makes more yards and you never dominate a tackle