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| How can people get so negative? I'm not over confident in saying we're gonna walk the league this year but to compare this season so far to last season is completely crazy
We lost our first away game of the season on saturday night but so far we have a better away record then THE WHOLE OF LAST YEAR !!!!!
Here's this year compared to this time last year;
2009 - P: 7 W: 5 D: 0 L: 2 F: 164 A: 127 DIF: +37
2008 - P: 9 W: 2 D: 1 L: 6 F: 147 A: 213 DIF: -66
How anyone can say we haven't improved is beyond me, if it was just overperforming we wouldn't be better in EVERY department with 2 games to spare.
Rant Over.
Thanks for reading
Now lets get a good win on sunday and go into the derby with a confident mindset !!!!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Its the nature of the defeats thats disappointing as ive said before on here. Both games were winable if we have played average never mind well. We should be 7 from 7 and it isnt good enough. Our tactics have been shocking in the last 4 games and we luckily won 2 of them. We have a squad of very talented players and stifle them by playing boring rugby, it needs to change.'"
Personally I don't care if we play a boring brand of rugby if we win games, you don't get any extra points for winning by 50. But your going off the point here, we might not play champagne stuff which for some is frustrating but certainley won't be a bottom 3 side. We've had a couple of losses and despite what anyone says I think we have improved from last season, not a great deal by all means but there is improvement there.
I think people are just overreacting myself, we won't win every game but we won't lose every one either. Saying we will finish bottom 3 is a massive knee jerk reaction. Sure we won't win any silverware this year but did anyone seriousley expect that turnaround during one off season ? The team that nearly did achieve that has broken up and we are whether people like it or not in a rebuilding stage.
I don't agree that Cas are a poor side either, for me they will be a hard team for anyone to beat.
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| Quote ="Black and white legend"I know im being negative and down beat at the moment but I truly believe we are no better than last year. I really cant see the next win and feel we will finish in the bottom 3 based on the last 2 games. we really havent kicked on at all from last season. I know we have won 4 but 3 where a below par wigan/catalans/bradford/hudds and one against a new team to the tournament. We have no creativity and play boring predictable one man rugby with no flair.The future is BLACK.'"
my wifes cooking his worst then last year but ffs i still eat it, you just have to live with it from time to time, seriously tho i think you need to start following city then you'll really know what negative is all about
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| Quote ="Black and white legend"I know im being negative and down beat at the moment but I truly believe we are no better than last year. I really cant see the next win and feel we will finish in the bottom 3 based on the last 2 games. we really havent kicked on at all from last season. I know we have won 4 but 3 where a below par wigan/catalans/bradford/hudds and one against a new team to the tournament. We have no creativity and play boring predictable one man rugby with no flair.The future is BLACK.'" not even bothering to read all the recent posts because its pointless, what are you on we've lost 2 games, what a nutter, theres loads of games left... even leeds and saints have lost 2 you know.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"icon_lol.gif you forgot, im just a fan with an opinion... Oh and thanks for the patronising post!!'"
I too am just a fan of way too many years to remember. I have seen highs and lows. My dad was a director for nearly 20 years and I sat with him while people shouted abuse at the board. FC won everything there was to win and people were still not satisfied. I remember one match when his cousin shouted abuse at him because we lost a match
So, I've heard it all and I'm sure I'll hear it all again. My advice, just to patronise you once again, is to move on and enjoy every precious win along with every precious lung-full of air you draw - you don't know when either might be your last. The old fella who used to sit two seats away from me until recently is no longer with us, but he turned up until he physically couldn't. He never moaned about the team or coach and if anyone had the right I think it was him seeing as just attending was difficult.
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| Listen mate - you'll see what a bottom three team plays like at weekend. Hull are light years beyond that. Reading this from the outside, the sentiments are ridiculous. It is a very even competition this season and you are a stronh team but we are destined for the bottom! (Salford BTW)
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Its the nature of the defeats thats disappointing as ive said before on here. Both games were winable if we have played average never mind well. We should be 7 from 7 and it isnt good enough. Our tactics have been shocking in the last 4 games and we luckily won 2 of them. We have a squad of very talented players and stifle them by playing boring rugby, it needs to change.'"
Crikey - whatever happened to positivity.
In the space of a fortnight you've gone from being Mr Positive to being more pessimistic than me.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"icon_lol.gif you forgot, im just a fan with an opinion that isnt satisfied with under performing against poor Cas and Quins teams and then saying weve won the previous 5 so it doesnt matter.
Oh and thanks for the patronising post!!'"
Thats a bit unfair on Cas mate,they are not doing too bad at the moment.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Thats a bit unfair on Cas mate,they are not doing too bad at the moment.'"
Cas are winning but apart from Salford, the rest of there winning results have been won by no more than 6 points I think. So there games could of gone either way. They are not killing games off, but I would expect them to kill teams off more than I would us.
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| What a pointless thread lol. So say for example we had those same matches in a different order so that we had lost those first 2 and then won the next 5? We would be in exatcly the same position points wise and everyone would be happy as Larry eh?
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| Quote ="Black and white legend"I know im being negative and down beat at the moment but I truly believe we are no better than last year. I really cant see the next win and feel we will finish in the bottom 3 based on the last 2 games. we really havent kicked on at all from last season. I know we have won 4 but 3 where a below par wigan/catalans/bradford/hudds and one against a new team to the tournament. We have no creativity and play boring predictable one man rugby with no flair.The future is BLACK.'"
Its still 71.5% success rate for christs sake, better than some kickers.
I hope you are right , but putting my 'head' on I think you will be top 6 without a problem.
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I never said it was muddy,i said it was heavy and i never made an excuse for the defeat.I was stating it was a 10 point defeat.Read it again silly boy.
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I never said it was muddy,i said it was heavy and i never made an excuse for the defeat.I was stating it was a 10 point defeat.Read it again silly boy.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Cas are winning but apart from Salford, the rest of there winning results have been won by no more than 6 points I think. So there games could of gone either way. They are not killing games off, but I would expect them to kill teams off more than I would us.'"
I personally wouldn't say its because they "can't" kill games off, if you take Saints or Leeds and maybe Salford and Celtic out the picture I reckon all the other teams are pretty even.
Its good to see the days are going were all teams had to do some weeks is simply turn up, you have to be at your best every week now in SL.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Thats a bit unfair on Cas mate,they are not doing too bad at the moment.'"
They were there for the beating and our errors cost us the game.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Cas are winning but apart from Salford, the rest of there winning results have been won by no more than 6 points I think. So there games could of gone either way. They are not killing games off, but I would expect them to kill teams off more than I would us.'"
All true but to put it into perspective our two loses were by 4 points and two points.
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| Someone remind me where the original poster of this thread went.
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| Quote ="Black and white legend"I know im being negative and down beat at the moment but I truly believe we are no better than last year. I really cant see the next win and feel we will finish in the bottom 3 based on the last 2 games. we really havent kicked on at all from last season. I know we have won 4 but 3 where a below par wigan/catalans/bradford/hudds and one against a new team to the tournament. We have no creativity and play boring predictable one man rugby with no flair.The future is BLACK.'"
ever heard of prozac,
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| Quote ="Black and white legend"I know im being negative and down beat at the moment but I truly believe we are no better than last year. I really cant see the next win and feel we will finish in the bottom 3 based on the last 2 games. we really havent kicked on at all from last season. I know we have won 4 but 3 where a below par wigan/catalans/bradford/hudds and one against a new team to the tournament. We have no creativity and play boring predictable one man rugby with no flair.The future is BLACK.'"
Sorry for butting in as a visitor on my way through, but this guy can't be for real? If he is, he's talking out of his back passage!
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| From bettingzone.co.uk who see Hull as third favourites for the CC:
Firstly we'll take the 10/1 about Hull FC.
Here we have a team with a good recent Challenge Cup pedigree. They beat Leeds by the narrowest of margins in the 2005 final and managed to get to last year's showpiece occassion despite a season of unrest.
They're a much more polished outfit this campaign, and it's no coincidence that their return to a consistently good level has come about at the same time Richard Horne has regained full fitness.
He had an injury-ravaged campaign last year but is back pulling the strings now and Hull are all the better for it.
They have a home tie against Salford to kick-off their challenge and granted a little bit of luck in the draw they have a solid chance of reaching their third final in the last five years.
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| William Hill's odds - they also see Hull in 3rd (from top)
Super League XIV - Regular Season - Winner 3 Apr 09
Leeds EVS
St Helens 11/10
Hull FC 20/1
Super League XIV - Grand Final - Winner 3 Apr 09
Leeds 5/4
St Helens 11/8
Hull FC 16/1
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