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| As i have said before i dont get where the whole Lee is this great defender comes from as Quins pin pointed him for their second try as he plants his feet far too early and when defending your line you cant afford to do that.
If Washbrook and Whiting were both at 100% i dont think he would be anywhere near the starting 17 anyway.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"As i have said before i dont get where the whole Lee is this great defender comes from as Quins pin pointed him for their second try as he plants his feet far too early and when defending your line you cant afford to do that.
If Washbrook and Whiting were both at 100% i dont think he would be anywhere near the starting 17 anyway.'"
King shot out of the line
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| Quote ="The Brother"King shot out of the line'"
Still got carried over very easily mind............
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Still got carried over very easily mind............'"
he shouldn't have been left isolated, i think he did his best 3 yards out to stop someone dead which isn't easy
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| Quote ="The Brother"King shot out of the line'" No he never, Randall got King interested by jumping out of acting half and engaged King there was no rushing out on Kings behalf, he just drifted slightly.
This left Lee with a 1 on 1 tackle to make and due to Lee's tackling technique he is never going to stop a bigger player in that situation be it from late footwork or simply running over the top of him.
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| Quote ="The Brother"he shouldn't have been left isolated, i think he did his best 3 yards out to stop someone dead which isn't easy'"
Same can be said of Hall with 1st try but no one has mentioned that.
Lee cannot change a game when he comes on...none of our subs can...thats why Washy and Whiting should be over Lee.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"No he never, Randall got King interested by jumping out of acting half and engaged King there was no rushing out on Kings behalf, he just drifted slightly.
This left Lee with a 1 on 1 tackle to make and due to Lee's tackling technique he is never going to stop a bigger player in that situation be it from late footwork or simply running over the top of him.'"
Sorry Wayne
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| Quote ="The Brother"Sorry Wayne'"
Why Ar$ey....he has given a good description in his opinion and gets ragged for it.
This board is bo11oxs at the moment.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Why Ar$ey....he has given a good description in his opinion and gets ragged for it.
This board is bo11oxs at the moment.'"
Don't come on then, iv'e been watching and playing the game long enough to see with my own eyes instaed of someone trying to make you look daft with his coaches talk
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Why Ar$ey....he has given a good description in his opinion and gets ragged for it.
This board is bo11oxs at the moment.'" No arguments there.
But of course if we don't like it, no one forces us on it!
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| Quote ="The Brother"Don't come on then, iv'e been watching and playing the game long enough to see with my own eyes instaed of someone trying to make you look daft with his coaches talk'" So you actually think King rushed out of the line instead of just drifting towards Randall when he jumped out of acting half ?
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"So you actually think King rushed out of the line instead of just drifting towards Randall when he jumped out of acting half ?'"
King went early
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| Quote ="The Brother"Don't come on then, iv'e been watching and playing the game long enough to see with my own eyes instaed of someone trying to make you look daft with his coaches talk'"
Oh bully for you....................been watching it long enough as well pal so dont come that with me.
Thought it was a well reasoned post but only a daft lad can see that it wasnt.
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| Quote ="hallas"Not sure if this has already been covered but can anyone explain why Tommy Lee is taking a place in the side....he is utterly clueless.
Everytime he gets the ball I just pray he doesn't try a fancy move and trick the rest of the lads by doing something out of the ordinary like passing the ball!!
We'll finish as I expected...5th or 6th at best.'"
Sounds like he takes after you.
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| Quote ="goldyfc08"thats not the point,
yes he gives 100%,
but he is clearly not good enough,
he comes on for 20,
and does nothing,
washbrook in next week,
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one that plays 20 mins and the other that plays 10-15 mins,'"
Comes on and does nothing.. and which team have you been watching this season? Your blind mate
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"So you actually think King rushed out of the line instead of just drifting towards Randall when he jumped out of acting half ?'"
He only drifted, but drifted too far and didn't reset anywhere near quick enough. As a non-marker, he's got to be able to make it across to a player running a line no more than 3/4 metres away from dummy half, especially as it wasn't a massively delayed pass, with Golden receiving the ball a few metres from the line. Randall wasn't King's man and he didn't need to be anywhere near as close as he was.
Lee's only chance of making the tackle was to knock Golden over with the initial impact and, given the size difference, it's no surprise that he didn't.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"As i have said before i dont get where the whole Lee is this great defender comes from as Quins pin pointed him for their second try as he plants his feet far too early and when defending your line you cant afford to do that.
If Washbrook and Whiting were both at 100% i dont think he would be anywhere near the starting 17 anyway.'"
Absolutely.
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| Quote ="hallas"Not sure if this has already been covered but can anyone explain why Tommy Lee is taking a place in the side....he is utterly clueless.
Everytime he gets the ball I just pray he doesn't try a fancy move and trick the rest of the lads by doing something out of the ordinary like passing the ball!!
We'll finish as I expected...5th or 6th at best.'"
my
For crying out loud.... MOVE ONE.
Why offload all of this negativity on such a regular basis on FC fans. Go and support someone else! PLEASE go and support someone else.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Lee's only chance of making the tackle was to knock Golden over with the initial impact and, given the size difference, it's no surprise that he didn't.'" If Lee had got off of the line faster instead of planting his feet early for the tackle he would have been in a far better position to make the tackle or at least hold him up longer so King could come in and affect the tackle.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"If Lee had got off of the line faster instead of planting his feet early for the tackle he would have been in a far better position to make the tackle or at least hold him up longer so King could come in and affect the tackle.'"
I disagree. If he'd have pushed up further, he'd have had to make the tackle whilst he was unbalanced and not set with a good platform to push off from. If anything, it would have increased the chance of Golden actually breaking the tackle.
King didn't need to be as far across as he was and, if he was where he should have been, he would have been in a position to assist with the tackle.
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| Tommy Lee has had lots of opportunities to shine and he hasn't really done that yet. We'd have been better off giving Anthony Thackeray a chance.
Also, anybody else think Tommy Lee has bulked up a bit? He looks like a forward this year!
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| Quote ="+ Hull FC +"Tommy Lee has had lots of opportunities to shine and he hasn't really done that yet. We'd have been better off giving Anthony Thackeray a chance.
Also, anybody else think Tommy Lee has bulked up a bit? He looks like a forward this year!
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Thackeray plays for widnes and have you been watching any games involving Lee this year?
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"Thackeray plays for widnes and have you been watching any games involving Lee this year?'"
Yes, and although he probably doesn't play as badly as many claim he does I dont think for one second he's cutting it playing for Hull FC.
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| Quote ="+ Hull FC +"Yes, and although he probably doesn't play as badly as many claim he does I dont think for one second he's cutting it playing for Hull FC.'"
I meant the position he has been playing
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