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| He's even too good to ref Celtic Vs Salford, with no offense to either side. Lets hope we don't get him at Murrayfield eh ?
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| What summed it up for me was when he didn't have a clue what to give and had to run accross the pitch to his touchjudge to give FC a clear hand over.
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| Totallly out of his depth for mine. The ten was very erratic from 8 to 12 depending on the speed of the play the ball and his ability to get back. Erratic in his penalties for holding down with some similar incidents resulting in penalties and other not.
Never in command of the game or earning any espect from the players, hence the constant bickering at him. Don't know if it's a language barrier of not but certainly not up to SL level.
On the balance of play however was equally poor for both teams and did not make any game breaking mistakes or decisions.
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| Quote ="Irregs #16"Wasnt the reason for us losing whatsoever'" i never said it was.
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| Quote ="The Brother"Best side won no doubt, well done cas
But in 30 years of following Hull fc and watching and playing in many amatuer games as well got to say he is the worst i have EVERseen and he shouldn't be allowed another game imo, it's a multi million pound indusrty and Stuart Cumming puts a bufoon in charge of athletes im just glad no one suffered a serious injury with that clown in charge'"
Anybody know what Cummings has actually done to improve refereeing standards in our game since he took charge ? Was given a budget for full time referees but that appears to have made no difference at all in standards. Instead we have to put up with a 'token' frenchman who was so far out of his depth reffing a Super League game it was unbelievable. There may not be a plethora of refereeing talent available but the bloke who reffed Fax v Widnes (forget his name) would at least be able to keep up with play and count. Not good enough it's Cummings who should be the first one down the road. Time for a shake up.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Anybody know what Cummings has actually done to improve refereeing standards in our game since he took charge ? Was given a budget for full time referees but that appears to have made no difference at all in standards. Instead we have to put up with a 'token' frenchman who was so far out of his depth reffing a Super League game it was unbelievable. There may not be a plethora of refereeing talent available but the bloke who reffed Fax v Widnes (forget his name) would at least be able to keep up with play and count. Not good enough it's Cummings who should be the first one down the road. Time for a shake up.'"
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Anybody know what Cummings has actually done to improve refereeing standards in our game since he took charge ? Was given a budget for full time referees but that appears to have made no difference at all in standards. Instead we have to put up with a 'token' frenchman who was so far out of his depth reffing a Super League game it was unbelievable. There may not be a plethora of refereeing talent available but the bloke who reffed Fax v Widnes (forget his name) would at least be able to keep up with play and count. Not good enough it's Cummings who should be the first one down the road. Time for a shake up.'"
Well said. Cummings is stealing a living IMO.
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| Quote ="cofr_rockin_robin"Look chill out you had the chance to go top tonight and the so called awesome Hull pack should of beaten Cas and the ref who is in his first season of SL so give him a break. It's not the ref's fault for dropping the ball in try scoring opportunity's.
If Sammy Tickle had kicked the goals you would of won but still had a go at the ref !'"
Are you deliberately missing the point or are you really that dense??
NO-ONE is blaming the ref for Hull's loss!!! We all know why we lost and I believe there's not one fan who hasn't congratulated Cas on their win!!
Have you completely disregarded the Cas fans saying the self same thing we are about the ref because it doesn't suit your theory??
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| It was quite easily the worst officiating I have ever seen. 2 perfect examples.
1. The spear tackle was a very dangerous one and was rightly penalised however the tackler wasn't even put on report! never mind sin-binned or sent off! Shocking decision regarding an issue we are supposed to be stamping out of the game.
2. Cas put a bomb up in the air (on the last tackle) which everyone let bounce. The ball bounced back towards the cas player who caught it and was then tackled. The ref then gave a handover back to Cas! Cas were tackled on the last and still hand the ball when he wanted to "handover" the ball back to them. Its not even a school boy error as even a school boy can see you cant hand the ball BACK to the team that have still got it! Imbecile.
I hope to never see him spoil a game in SL again.
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| Missing the fifth tackle and having to ask the touch judge said it all for me.
( Cabman mode) I AM NOT BLAMING HIM FOR OUR DEFEAT THOUGH.(Cabman mode )
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Tell you what mate,you had to be there,amateurish is insulting the grass roots refs.This guy was a total joke.
And no,I am not blaming him for the defeat,as he was useless for both teams.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Tell you what mate,you had to be there,amateurish is insulting the grass roots refs.This guy was a total joke.
And no,I am not blaming him for the defeat,as he was useless for both teams.'"
Saints had him for our away game at Huddesfield and to be honest he wasn't that bad
It's Ian Smith thats the worst Ref in Superleague as he was the Ref when Hull KR beat us and that was an excuse as he robbed us (even Dick Turpin wore a mask)
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| Quote ="red robin"What can i say...same old U'll, lose a game and the ref gets the blame..lol'"
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| Quote ="Robbo4"It was quite easily the worst officiating I have ever seen. 2 perfect examples.
1. The spear tackle was a very dangerous one and was rightly penalised however the tackler wasn't even put on report! never mind sin-binned or sent off! Shocking decision regarding an issue we are supposed to be stamping out of the game.
2. Cas put a bomb up in the air (on the last tackle) which everyone let bounce. The ball bounced back towards the cas player who caught it and was then tackled. The ref then gave a handover back to Cas! Cas were tackled on the last and still hand the ball when he wanted to "handover" the ball back to them. Its not even a school boy error as even a school boy can see you cant hand the ball BACK to the team that have still got it! Imbecile.
I hope to never see him spoil a game in SL again.'"
thats exactly what he did his ineptness spoilt the game from the minute we kicked off.
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| Thought he was fine generally. The one thing I would pick up on is his failure to consistently signal the last tackle early enough, if at all. He did it at least a couple of times last night (our last set and one for Cas towards the end when they also scooted instead of going for the DG being the notable examples) and has done it a couple of other times in games that have been on Sky. It's poor and really needs to be sorted as it can (has?) and will cost teams points.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Thought he was fine generally. The one thing I would pick up on is his failure to consistently signal the last tackle early enough, if at all. He did it at least a couple of times last night (our last set and one for Cas towards the end when they also scooted instead of going for the DG being the notable examples) and has done it a couple of other times in games that have been on Sky. It's poor and really needs to be sorted as it can (has?) and will cost teams points.'"
You are entitled to your opinion mate,and I respect that,but I totally have to disagree with you.The times he let offsides and laying on go ,was to me amazing.Plus the tackle on Cusack,the fact he lost count of the tackles,blah blah.
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| The ref was a disgrace. Don't you find that ALL Super League officials seem to have it in for both Hull sides at the minute??
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| Quote ="Bransholme Red"The ref was a disgrace. Don't you find that ALL Super League officials seem to have it in for both Hull sides at the minute??'"
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| My only biff with the ref last night was the deliberate slowing down of the Play the ball .
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Thought he was fine generally. The one thing I would pick up on is his failure to consistently signal the last tackle early enough, if at all. He did it at least a couple of times last night (our last set and one for Cas towards the end when they also scooted instead of going for the DG being the notable examples) and has done it a couple of other times in games that have been on Sky. It's poor and really needs to be sorted as it can (has?) and will cost teams points.'"
Thought he was poor - especially whe it was the final tackle and handover to Hull only for him to run backwards and wave 5th tackle - then to be told by his touch judge it was the hand over!!!! However he never lost us the game!!!
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| Quote ="Bransholme Red"The ref was a disgrace. Don't you find that ALL Super League officials seem to have it in for both Hull sides at the minute??'"
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| [urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/09/03/23/RUGBYL_Disciplinary.html[/url
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Neither of Castlefords players receive bans.'"
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| Quote ="CHUCKY"Ref was very poor for BOTH teams,let BOTH lay on,stray infront of him etc.He was not the reason we lost,we simply got out muscled and their kicking game was 100% better than ours
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