Exactly.

No club can have in unlimited number of big earners, so the ones on teh modest salaries are a necessity. If those who are squad fillers, on less than the big names, wouldn't you prefer it if they still put in the same level of effort and endevour whilst not looking out of place.

IF, G Horne was released his salary would not attract the star name so many crave. The trade off is having 2 decent players or 1 star player. After last seasons injury nightmare I think its safety in numbers.

As I've said, I'm not bothered either way about Horne ATM, I'm not saying get rid. My point is about the length of contract, which is what the original article is about. With new players coming through I don't personally think Horne justifies a longer term deal, because if the youngsters coming through progress as they look like they can he'll be surplus to requirements, possibly by the end of next season.

The money he's on won't be the kind of amount we could attract a big name with, almost certainly. I'm just saying that we need that kind of 'wiggle room' so that we don't put ourselves in a position where we have to shed a younger player who may have become the better player because we have a steay player with years left to run.

The other thing is that he happens to play in the positions where we actually are well stocked with numbers. We are already carrying perhaps 1 or 2 too many, so that's another reason I wouldn't see the wisdom in giving him more than a year extension.

Not really. Yeaman is a much better centre than G.Horne. He is a much better runner of the ball, I would say a faster player too and when he passes he is better at that too.
We have too many players who "won't let us down." Its all fine and dandy at the moment as we are winning games. But its the teams who have players who can win games with great attack that will get to finals. Look at the games against Wakey, Leigh and Saints from the 2005 cup run. The run of games where we tanked Leeds at Headingley and were superb at Saints and won. Also look at our attacking play at Bradford and against Wakey in last years cup run. We attacked fantastically in those games and got to finals

...and G.Horne was one of our better players last season so why are we discussing him and not others?

I'll go out on a limb and say I personally think G.Horne has the more flair about him as we saw with the pass that put Calderwood in for his first try.

Yeaman has the potential I feel to be the better player but is currently on par with Horne.

Either way since he was threatened with the Doncaster move G.Horne in whatever position he has been played has stood out positively more than negative.

Overall he is currently deserving of that right Centre spot. He's going nowhere yet so wether he stays or not is something that is a pointless discussion right now.

The game away at Leeds where we tanked them, horne was in the back row and produced some fantastic offloads

He was in the HDM saying it was a big season for him, hence the discussion. We have discussed numerous player on here in the last few weeks.

All of this he is better than he is is so boring to be honest ....
The cold truth of the fact is that during the latter part of last season G Horne was better than nearly all of the squad so lets not forget that!! and in the opening three games he has recieved hardly any quality ball and done absolutely nothing wrong yet!

remember that these boys read this forum too guys!!

And it's easier to look good in a squad performing well. Graeme stood out in an underperforming team, behind a pack that was going backwards!

So what? They are professional players they need to accept they will be discussed whether its good or bad.

Fwiw people are discussing Horne and his form, it nobody is slating or knocking the guy.

Steady now.

I dont get why Graeme Horne is getting all this stick, off all the players in the fc team in the last twelve months he would be by far one of the better performers. He hasnt even been playing playing centre for a full season yet and has now got to develop a relationship with a new 6 and 7 never mind calderwood as his winger.Give him another 10 games at least and then start discussing him.

And its clear that Agar prefers Horne over Hall at centre atm or he would have been in there at the start of the season. This i believe as Halls defence for centre is far too weak and wants him to develop and build his strength up. Agar and Sharp are wanting to build a team which is hard to score against and im afraid to say you cant do that with Hall at centre, or at least for another couple of seasons. Then I can see him being a much more all rounded centre.

Briscoe is being used at the minute and playing well but Agar wont burn him out and play him over Horne when Raynor is back. Allow Briscoe to play a handful of games this season and use him when necessary. This will help him become a far better player in the future!

thats me done

I say keep G-Unit!

agreed 100%

You don't want reasoned debate on a forum?

Why the rolling eyes? Paul is right, no one has knocked Horne as far as I'm aware. Professional athletes are going to be the subject of fans' discussions. As long as it doesn't descend into personal abuse, they have to accept it as part of the job.

I think Graham was one of our best players last season..I believe he will also be one of our top players this season as well.

I don't. He's a useful squad player for his utility value and he's certainly improved just recently. I don't ever see him being a first choice anything if we have a fully fit squad.

Agree, no knocking his performances but we have better when fit. IMO he looked good last season in a poor side too.

i dont get how you can criticise a player for looking good in a poor side. to me that is about as big a complement you can get!!!

one moment of his that stands out was his awesome try against wakefield in the semi final. It was brilliant centre play.

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

Who's criticising him? Stating a fact shouldnt be interpreted in that way.

Certainly do that is the essence of the thing, its the manner in which you opened your gambit that was well worth a



debate away , hence the reason this exists

and again I will say that G H is playing well and has done so consistently for some time now and has his place by merit

He's playing no better than average IMO. Certainly not well enough to be starting centre if we had any other decent options right now.