Highly impressed by Tom Briscoe, and if he can keep delivering such quality performances on the pitch then Agar won't be able to drop him anyway?!

i'd put money on it right now that he will be playing in the 4 nations later on this year!

Carries on in this form and stay's injury free(

) he will be.
I did hear he would have been in the train-on squad for the world cup if he had'nt got injured.

You don't remember his length of the field effort at Warrington a couple of years ago then



That came from defending a high ball to his corner as well



And as for slinging out daft passes. IF our players actually stayed alert they would turn into very good passes. Similar thing happened last night when Richard Horne had turned his back and dropped an offload

Agree with all that. Raynor is class and irrespective of what's gone on in his absence should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.

agar doesnt see that

Wow.....once in 2 years........yes Horne was guilty last night and the pass was on.......im just not a Raynor fan and dont think he is as good as you make out...but if he scores a shedload and helps us win something then i will have a big helping off pie.

Agree with Kosh's comments and furthermore, if we can provide him with a good kick - chase game there is no more dangerous in Super League IMO than Raynor in that area.

Don't think anybody is saying Calderwood isn't a good player, only that with Briscoe playing so well and Raynor coming back that he will probably be the one fighting to get this place back, and I agree. Frankly its brilliant for Hull to have competition for places at that level.

Back on the topic of Briscoe. Superb performance. That try saving tackle I think may just be one of the best I have ever seen.

Disagree, he's not as good as people want to make us believe.

Some of the "close Range" tries he has scored over the years have being insane. He's a quality finisher and more often then not comes up with the goods.

As "people", who are these people? I for one have my own set of eyes and I'm capable of making my own mind up. Frankly suggesting others have an opinion simply because its suggested to them, is somewhat insulting.

Only insulting if you chose to take it that way, Raynor is a solid, average winger (imho), the fact he is one of the best British wingers says more about the lack of development in that position than his abilities (again, imvho)

Your opinion is not valid, it was clearly suggested to you by other people.

Couldn't agree more - Briscoe's handled everything with aplomb so far, so why delay in putting him in to his favoured position? I don't think Graham Horne has done badly - to be fair I don't think anyone has done badly and I'm really enthused by such a positive start - but Calderwood must be wondering what he has to do to get a pass from him at times. Nice selection dilemma for the coach to have anyway...which certainly makes a change from last year.

As far as Raynor goes, his try scoring record is OK without being exceptional. Fifteen SL tries in the last two seasons, although he scored 29 between 2006-07. His try scoring ratio over the last four seasons was very similar to Matt Sing and before him Nathan Blacklock, although they both got far more criticism, oddly enough.

Anyway, back on topic



Tom is one of the more exciting prospects in Super League and I hope he gets an extended run in the first team, be it on the wing or in the centres.

These people being...?



Sorry, but I have seen Raynor play 100+ times for FC with my own eyes. He is an excellent player, and one of our best. IMO.

I managed to form this opinion on my own, unless you are suggesting I was unduly influenced by the subliminal message "Raynor is a top player" that is hidden in the recording of Old Faithful played at home games.

I basically see it as Raynor, Briscoe and G.Horne competing for 2 slots, i also think that raynor has a very good understanding with yeaman. His try scoring record is irrelevant when you consider how many tries yeaman has scored over the last 3 years (42 in sl i think) i prefer to think of the centre and winger as a strike partnership. so it's horne or briscoe at right centre for me, and how do you leave tom out? although he should be rested now and again to prevent burnout. all imo of course.

I've seen him play about the same number of times, and I don't agree, if we played the game with the pitch sideways I might have a different opinion.

being a great player for us considering where his career was at when he arrived at Hull and fully justified his selection for international honours.

He has 30 tries in his last 66 super league appearances, i'm sorry but that's not too shabby imo. Don't really see how you can argue with his sideways running. He runs along the line looking for a little gap and how many times has he made a half break through doing this? also runs the ball well from dummy half allowing the forwards a break. Don't really see what else he can do for the team

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A 50% success rate in a team with the worst attack in the competition sounds like top quality to me. If he'd been playing outside gidley and lyon for the last few years he'd have been by far and away the top try scorer. His defence and kick chase are the best of any winger in the competition. I remember a wonder tackle on henry fa'afili a couple of years ago and also the try he scored in Oz when chasing a kick everyone else had given up on. His only failing for me is his injury record

Spot on. That tackle on Fa'afili was unbelievable. Over his 8 year career with FC, he's been the best British player we've had. IMO.

Better than Horne?

Yes, IMO. I really rate him, if you hadn't noticed.

I think Horne's an excellent player too, but Raynor shades it IMO.