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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"I've just fired off the below e-mail to the SMC.
FAO Mr Duffen
I am writing in objection to your unexplained decision NOT to permit an International RL match later this year at the KC Stadium.
You shouldn't have to be reminded that the stadium is for the benefit of the whole of the community and not the sole use of Hull City AFC. It's not a Hull City thing, it's more likely a commercial decision. RL simply isn't commercially attractive.
The bulk of the community don't care about RL. 12,000 over a dozen or so games...
There have been many International RL matches in this City well before you came here, some were played at Boothferry Park to accommodate the vast RL following in this City, not just Hull FC and Hull KR but the 1000s played at amateur and junior levels that play in and around the Hull and district area.
It had to be played at the football stadium because RL Stadiums are not built with big crowds in mind. Your comment disproves your point.
You need to be reminded Mr Duffen that this is also a RL City, and your unexplained decision to deny us the RL supporter the privilige to support our National team is deplorable and insulting. You can support your national team, at whatever venue decides to host the event.From a business perspective, it seems it's not cost effective here.
24000 RL supporters attended games at the KC and Craven Park over the last two games in Super League, you have no right to deny us the privilige to support our game. In the first place, it would seem he does have the right to not play it at the KC. In the second he's not stopping you watching it. '"
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| Doesnt matter that im red and white, im with all the posters on here. 4 internationals and all crowds of 20000+, of which I attended all. Its a disgrace and I hope the SMC realise we may be overlooked in the future.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"and another
Dear Councillor Minns
I am writing to air my outrage at the decion taken by Mr Duffen of the SMC to deny all the supporters of RL at all levels, not only of our own city but that of many RL supporters across the country, an opportunity to support our national RL team at the KC Stadium.
By the very fact that he (Mr Duffen) is 'unavailable' to comment leaves us RL supporters of the opinion that the decision made was in the interest of Hull City AFC, and not that of the whole of the community for which the stadium was built.
I also think that you and the rest of the council should have made loud and strong support for the event to be held, and equally strong protestations to the SMC at their decision not to.
Mr Duffen and the SMC, and yourselves as councillors of our City have shown a complete lack of respect and manners to the RFL, and utter contempt of the RL supporters of Hull, and have totally let us down.
I am utterly perplexed as to how Mr Duffen has the authority to over rule what should have been a strong support from the council to hold this event.
RL International matches have traditionally been awarded to Hull as a reward for many years of support to the game at both amateur and proffessional levels.
RL Internationals have been played in this City before Mr Duffen had even heard of the City of Kingston Upon Hull, he has no right to deny us our reward, and you as a council should not have let him do so.
You have let us down tremendously.'"
That'll be the Cllr Minns that didn't want the Stadium in the first place you're saying that too would it?
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"'"
It's not a Hull City thing, it's more likely a commercial decision. RL simply isn't commercially attractive.
25000 full capacity isn't commercially attractive? you are a daft lad.
The bulk of the community don't care about RL. 12,000 over a dozen or so games...
with your 20 odd k supporters and a combined 20 odd k RL supporters in the City..seems like the community cares as much for the tiggers
It had to be played at the football stadium because RL Stadiums are not built with big crowds in mind. Your comment disproves your point.
Of course we are a minority sport compared to the PL, but historically we filled those for Internationals, as we do for the GF at OT and CC at Wembley.
Old Trafford welcome the RL with open arms and make efforts to accommodate us.
You can support your national team, at whatever venue decides to host the event.From a business perspective, it seems it's not cost effective here.
There hasa been previous Internationals at the KC and proved to be very profitable for both parties. You have missed the point, its not about being cost effective, it's about not agreeing on a date
In the first place, it would seem he does have the right to not play it at the KC. In the second he's not stopping you watching it.
The RFL wanted to bring the game here as it would have been good business with a sell out gate, And just reward for loyal support of the International game in Hull, Duffen is out of touch with the people of Hull and the history of RL in this City.
In my opinion he does not have the right to deny the RL support in this City to see an International game when offered by the governing body.
You must be Duffens rent boy as I have spoken to lots of City supporters and they all agree Duffen is out of order and has over stepped the mark.
You are the only one in agreement with him. Tool.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"It's not a Hull City thing, it's more likely a commercial decision. RL simply isn't commercially attractive.
25000 full capacity isn't commercially attractive? you are a daft lad.
Given the rubbish in your posts, you should avoid accusing other of being daft lads, especially when you're on in posession of teh facts for the bigger picture.
The bulk of the community don't care about RL. 12,000 over a dozen or so games...
with your 20 odd k supporters and a combined 20 odd k RL supporters in the City..seems like the community cares as much for the tiggers Perhaps, but then I'm not the fool claiming otherwise. By the way, you should consider how averages are summed before quoting numbers.
It had to be played at the football stadium because RL Stadiums are not built with big crowds in mind. Your comment disproves your point.
Of course we are a minority sport compared to the PL, but historically we filled those for Internationals, as we do for the GF at OT and CC at Wembley.
Old Trafford welcome the RL with open arms and make efforts to accommodate us.
Nope, Fergy complained about RL spoiling the pitch.
You can support your national team, at whatever venue decides to host the event.From a business perspective, it seems it's not cost effective here.
There hasa been previous Internationals at the KC and proved to be very profitable for both parties. You have missed the point, its not about being cost effective, it's about not agreeing on a date
In the first place, it would seem he does have the right to not play it at the KC. In the second he's not stopping you watching it.
The RFL wanted to bring the game here as it would have been good business with a sell out gate, And just reward for loyal support of the International game in Hull, Duffen is out of touch with the people of Hull and the history of RL in this City.
In my opinion he does not have the right to deny the RL support in this City to see an International game when offered by the governing body.
You must be Duffens rent boy as I have spoken to lots of City supporters and they all agree Duffen is out of order and has over stepped the mark.
You are the only one in agreement with him. Tool.'"
Rent boy? Grow some pubes before commenting, you just show your stupidity and ignorance.
I haven't said if I agree or disagree with the decision, I simply pointed out some of the many errors in your argument.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Rent boy? Grow some pubes before commenting, you just show your stupidity and ignorance.
I haven't said if I agree or disagree with the decision, I simply pointed out some of the many errors in your argument.'"
No errors in the post sunshine, you may think so, so I put you right on your errors.
Duffens 'unavailability for comment' speaks volumes, what is pathetic sunshine is you trying to speak for him.
haven't you got something to worry about at your own club sonny jim.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"No errors in the post sunshine, you may think so, so I put you right on your errors.
Duffens 'unavailability for comment' speaks volumes, what is pathetic sunshine is you trying to speak for him.
haven't you got something to worry about at your own club sonny jim.'"
You do realise that MUH has an alarm that goes of in his living room if anyone on here types any of the following Hull City/SMC/Duffen/Pearson.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"No errors in the post sunshine, you may think so, so I put you right on your errors.
Duffens 'unavailability for comment' speaks volumes, what is pathetic sunshine is you trying to speak for him.
haven't you got something to worry about at your own club sonny jim.'"
The post where you 'put me right' must have been deleted, all I can see is your inaccurate ramblings.
Try reading my post again when you've lost the Hull City chip off your shoulder.
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| Quote ="Danny 2"we can move if where payed the right money
cant see us moving as our old ground cant get developed due to the houses there'"
You won't be payed any money for moving full stop , people are losing their jobs in Hull haven't you heard of the credit crunch.
Agree with you there planning is difficult around the boulevard .
I was always under the impression from your supporters that you were equal partners in the stadium are things now changing ?
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| Quote ="KC BRI"Who gives a t@ss were crap anyway'"
city are yes
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| Quote ="Danny 2"we can move if where payed the right money
cant see us moving as our old ground cant get developed due to the houses there'"
The houses around the Famous old ground are coming down within 5 years . There would be ample room to build and redevelope a 20 ,000 capacity stadium on the Boulevard site. Airlie st and Gordon St could be brought in right up to the pitch .And a New Best stand be built . Maybe we can dream .
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Doesnt matter that im red and white, im with all the posters on here. 4 internationals and all crowds of 20000+, of which I attended all. Its a disgrace and I hope the SMC realise we may be overlooked in the future.'"
This should be on your board aswell. This isn't just denying FC fans ,It's denying all RL fans across the East Riding of Yorkshire.
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| Quote ="B0NES"The houses around the Famous old ground are coming down within 5 years . There would be ample room to build and redevelope a 20 ,000 capacity stadium on the Boulevard site. Airlie st and Gordon St could be brought in right up to the pitch .And a New Best stand be built . Maybe we can dream .'"
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Exactly.It's not going to happen . But I'm sure we as supporters of RL both east and west could send a message to Duffen ,SMC , HCC That were not going to accept this policy of Football dictating what we can and Cannot watch in a community stadium.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Exactly.It's not going to happen . But I'm sure we as supporters of RL both east and west could send a message to Duffen ,SMC , HCC That were not going to accept this policy of Football dictating what we can and Cannot watch in a community stadium.'"
I've not read the article nor all of the thread. Where does it say that football is dictating?
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"I've not read the article nor all of the thread. Where does it say that football is dictating?'"
Read The artical and work it out.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Read The artical and work it out.'"
Right, I've read the article.
It seems you're all getting worked up because you think it's because of the football because of the way HDM feeds the paranoid and simple minded.
I still read it that it's a commercial decision by the SMC. Do you really think a businesman would have the SMC lose a money making opportunity?
Some of you really need to broaden your horizons.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Right, I've read the article.
It seems you're all getting worked up because you think it's because of the football because of the way HDM feeds the paranoid and simple minded.
I still read it that it's a commercial decision by the SMC. Do you really think a businesman would have the SMC lose a money making opportunity?
Some of you really need to broaden your horizons.'"
Until someone comes forward and says this isn't nothing to do with Hull y and it's the fault of the RFL and a full house isn't a money making opportunity, Then i wontl broaden my horizons.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"I still read it that it's a commercial decision by the SMC. '"
Really? So Duffen thinks that he can't make money from a full KC stadium?
His business plan must really suck.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Really? So Duffen thinks that he can't make money from a full KC stadium?
His business plan must really suck.'" 'Arry has crawled out again....He would lose his head defending the Tiggers.....They can do no wrong. But this time, its not City at fault. They are doing well (ish) in a hard division. What 'Arry fails to let sink in is the fact that Duffen (new to the job) doesn't seem to understand the HISTORY OF THIS CITYS SPORT.....WE ARE A RUGBY LEAGUE CITY.....The soccer supporters outnumber us only because the team are in the top flight.......They are mostly Liverpool, Leeds and Man U supporters that have jumped on a pathetic bandwagon anyway , if they drop again or Bullards leg drops off, then everything will go back to normal. We will be able to watch international rugby league in our COMMUNITY STADIUM and also probably get a few more bands to perform there too!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Really? So Duffen thinks that he can't make money from a full KC stadium?
His business plan must really suck.'"
It probably does now - hasn't he got a £14M hole to fill?
Still surprised he's not been available for comment - the man's not exactly publicity shy is he?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Really? So Duffen thinks that he can't make money from a full KC stadium?
His business plan must really suck.'"
Or perhaps there's a bigger picture where a one off game could cost more than not playing it.
Some of you insist on proving to the world that you're stupid and small minded. It's not me defending Hull City or football, I'm simply pointing out where your arguments are ill-informed. If you're looking to change the decision, whinging about non-issues or venting your anti-football anti Hull City spleen is not going to be productive.
According to some of you, this is a massive Rugby League hotbed, so surely the KC won't be big enough anyway, and travelling an hour down the road to a bigger stadium would be no problem at all?
I read there were issues about playing a game at the stadium and knew the noddies would be on here blaming Hull City, yet admitting they've actually no facts to support their whine.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"Or perhaps there's a bigger picture where a one off game could cost more than not playing it.
Some of you insist on proving to the world that you're stupid and small minded. It's not me defending Hull City or football, I'm simply pointing out where your arguments are ill-informed. If you're looking to change the decision, whinging about non-issues or venting your anti-football anti Hull City spleen is not going to be productive.
According to some of you, this is a massive Rugby League hotbed, so surely the KC won't be big enough anyway, and travelling an hour down the road to a bigger stadium would be no problem at all?
I read there were issues about playing a game at the stadium and knew the noddies would be on here blaming Hull City, yet admitting they've actually no facts to support their whine.'"
So you thought you would come on and wind us up a bit more.
Personally...couldnt give a toss as we would get a good tw4tting anyway and id sooner watch it on telly and save some money.
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| It's the "unavailable for comment" angle that has riled most RL supporters. very poor on Duffen's part I have to say.
I remember very recently attending a game at noon and a game at 6pm on the same day in the stadium. Cant remember the teams both Hull teams played but I can remember changing from my City chirt to my FC shirt in the pub!
This has to be more than the logistics as there is a precident as above. I cant see the terms of use being vastly different to the terms used at previous internationals so we can only speculate as to why.
Again, the perception is there for all to see and Duffen should "be available" and open to appease these fans and their beliefs. Mr Duffen has opened a very large gaping wound and needs to find some needles very quickly.
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