Nope. Could be a simple clash of personalities, or it could be that Agar favours Briscoe as he was instrumental in bringing him to the club.

I'd like to think we could find places for both TBH. As GG said, both are exceptional talents and should have big futures if developed correctly.


Would be a mistake IMO.

Well Agar is here isnt he, and if they do clash that isnt going to help his chances of playing. I agree we should aim to get them both into the team but 4 into 1 doesnt go. Hall could do with a full season playing for Salford or Celtic or someone like that to work on his defensive frailties.

how would that help? surely it would be better for him to defend in between crocker and horne?

It would help because he would be playing SL not 21s. It would also help because he wouldnt be able to hide behind Horne and Crocker.

i see what your saying i just think guidence from those 2 would improve him no end.

but if we aren't going to play him he may as well go on loan.

will be interesting to see how he gets on at leeds.

Hall is a player I rate highly in attack and but not so much in defence. Part of his problem in both attack and defence is his decision making but he is still learning and I think we should cut him some slack. That said I have also heard reports about his attitude in terms of developing himself and taking criticism on board.

I would continue with Briscoe on the wing for this season (covering Raynor to start with) and look to play Hall at centre with Yeaman. However I think Horne has possibly got that spot right now so who knows?

If Hall can show some improvement this season then it would solve the problem we have with regards to another centre and with Briscoe lookng to move there from 2010 then wewould have three good options.

If Hall is in and out of the side this season then I can see him leaving at the end of the season.

You have no evidence of that othan you 'supposedly' being in the know.

All this neutral fan rubbish I don't buy, you continually slag off both clubs and always claim to know the truth.

were supposed to be developing youth !!! i agree with the points of poor decision making but who actually makes a decision in the Hull side attacking wise??? You have to keep your youth just cast your minds back when everybody was on both the hornes back and last season GH matured as a very good player.. if yeaman passed the ball to his left a bit more ...more try scoring oppotunities would occur.
back to hall hes a good goal kicker as well(sits back and waits for the abuse now)..............

Would have Hall over Byrne,G.Horne and the boy wonder Briscoe.

28 tries in 39 games says why Hall is important to Hull.

Pah..stats are so misleading arent they...

You mistake me for someone who gives a f**k



I say it as i see it, if you don't like that..... TOUGH

Hall's defensive 'frailties' are overstated IMO. And nothing that wouldn't be sorted by having Horne and Crocker defending on the same side.

He is one of the very few players we have who can score tries out of nothing and just generally make things happen in attack. It would be verging on criminal not to include him when we have such a pi$$ poor attack and struggle to cross the line. IMO.

Loaning him out would be a waste and we might as well just let him go somewhere permanently. Better for us and much better for him.

The best post on the thread so far.

Unless there is a drastic change of mindset from Agar with regards to allowing attacking flair i can never see Hall flourishing whilst Agar or any other play the percentages coach is at the helm.

The amount of times last season he made half breaks or got his arms free in the tackle and yet no players were pushing up on the play was ridiculous. Fair enough he makes mistakes however it would be interesting how many of those mistakes came from other players been lazy and no offering any support when they should be.

Like the preverbial bus along comes another





Well said.

Exactly many times last year certain things were counted as mistakes on his behalf when in fact at times he was just way ahead of his team mates when it came to attack.

totally agree if we dint have players like hall. berrigan last season we would of been crap

I disagree. I wouldn't back him to make an effective tackle one-on-one with anyone in SL TBH. Having said that I would still play him for his attacking qualities and the fact that Horne and Crocker can help cover his defensive problems. He needs to play to learn and Briscoe can keep covering the wing for now as he is still very young. All of which will be completely ignored when Byrne lines up at Centre for the first game of the season as I've been saying for months.

Maybe it's time Agar realised the team are there to ENTERTAIN, percentage rugby is not entertaining.

Arent they there to win?

No

If we lose every game but score over 40 points whilst losing, everyone will be well happy

Why? is Yeamo injured

You sure about that?

Both IMO.