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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"No
Voices was set up cos the Club cocked up with Kear, it was a knee jerk reaction to ANOTHER blunder by the administration'"
Why is what I said wrong, just because it was in reaction to the Kear fiasco? If setting up the group was a knee jerk reaction, howcome its been going over 2 and a half years? Surely if it was a knee-jerk reaction it have lated that long so far?
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| Why don't the HISA knockers put up and stand for chairperson of the association if they feel they have something to give in improving the way it operates?
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| Quote ="Standee"Hutchie is on MSN and not RLFans, read into that what you will.'"
Why don't you ask him on MSN then?
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| Quote ="The Key"Why is what I said wrong, just because it was in reaction to the Kear fiasco? If setting up the group was a knee jerk reaction, howcome its been going over 2 and a half years? Surely if it was a knee-jerk reaction it have lated that long so far?'"
They set it up, they control it, simple as
Plus there are enough people who believe the spin and drivel to keep it going
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"They set it up, they control it, simple as
Plus there are enough people who believe the spin and drivel to keep it going'"
Well you know f'all about it then
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| Quote ="Standee"We know FCVoices have an opinion on this as Pete was on the radio, but where are HISA, are they even active, or are they saying nothing because it doesn't affect their membership?'"
HISA have not been asked for there opinion by any forms of the media.
Now if i was to give an opinion, would that be the opinion of the membership, or my own personal views?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not worth a w*nk imo.'"
good job, i dont fancy giving you one
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| Quote ="Standee"Seems that way, maybe because Hutchie doesn't have a problem with Fridays HISA don't have a problem.
Does it even have any members anymore?'"
I dont have a problem with fridays
Yes there is still a membership
And for the record i have only received one complaint regarding the friday nights, yet over ten times that amount of either postive or neutral comments
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| Quote ="Standee"If I thought HISA had a mandate and was genuinely working in the interests of the fan base I would consider getting involved, but not in it's current guise.'"
Feel free, make up your own mandate, take up the fans interests and re-invent the supporters association
new blood never did anyone any harm
just remember to convey the thoughts of the people you would be serving and not your own liitle agendas
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| Quote ="Suzie"I don't think it's still going. You use to get membership renewals every year that stopped a while ago soon after the move to the KC.'"
We changed the format in 2007.
We stopped asking for a membership fee as we were not able to provide fans forums and other stuff
It was pointless paying over £100 a year for a PO box just to receive membership renewals so everyone who was a member or had ever been aaaaaaaaaaaautomatically were renewed
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| Quote ="Standee"Anyone else find it interesting that Hutchie is usually all over the place, starting rumours etc etc. and yet the minute someone needs to know about HISA he is, errrm, invisible?'"
thats because i work for a living and dont toss it off on rlfans during the day like others do
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| Quote ="Standee"Just had a text from Hutchie, he can't get on RLfans easily from work, am sure he'll tell us all about what HISA is upto when he can later.'"
see above
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| Quote ="The Key"I dont know too much about them, but from what I can tell, HISA gave up far too easily after the club decided not to recognise them. When that happened, they should have made sure they were too big to be ignored. For example, if they were still around now and functioning properly, alot of their members could disagree with the Friday switch. They could go to the club with this and if the club didnt listen, go to the media, kick up a big fuss, get themselves noticed and be the voice of the fans, or at least their many members. Imo, HISA should have turned into a protest type of group. Members pay a very small annual fee and when issues arrive, big ones they can all get together and kick up a fuss. End of the day, the club won't want unhappy fans (believe it or not, you wouldnt think so after recent events), and won't want them tarnishing the clubs reputation in the media'"
I never gave up mate, well not in the first year. nut i was told time and agin inno uncertain terms they would not deal with HISA and only to go through FC voices. this was reiterated by the original chair of FC voices .
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| Quote ="Hutchie"thats because i work for a living and dont toss it off on rlfans during the day like others do'"
And then you wonder why you are not the new mod
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Just to throw my 2 pence in, so called representative/consultative bodies like HISA and FCVoices are pretty toothless anyway and i also actually believe that all of their members will not share the same view on the Friday night issue/change. One person going in public and saying its not a good thing and upsets their members isnt a view that should be classed as representative of their members although i guess it will be.'"
you are spot on there esp the highlighted bit
Toothless may be a bit harsh, but id rather be toothless and trying to knash away at something, than sit and hum along to the record even if i dont like it
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"The lying barsteward, all he does is sits at his computer giving the odd bit of paper out
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Oi , ive given up the job at the preston road Giro office
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| Quote ="Irregs #16"HISA were Independant, thats what the club didnt like, FC Voices is an idea by the club so they are never going to challenge the club like HISA did in the past.
Shane Richardson was a massive supporter of HISA and used to hold regualr meetings with the group, and i dont mean HISA wrote or called to him, he went to them. HISA were involved as a voice in the stadium, as well as other issues after the McAlpine incident. To compare HISA to FC Voices is unfair i think - two totally different groups created under two very different sets of circumstances. The reason HISA fell away is that people became complacent, the club was going places, people only want these groups around when there is a problem - so in essence its the fans faults for not renewing HISA memberships as to why they dont have a voice anymore'"
very well summed up young man
When i asked people to join, a lot of response was, we dont need to theres no issues
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| Quote ="UllFC"I dont feel HISA do enough promotion though, if you went to the KC how many of the 12k or so home fans do you think know who they are, what they stand for and how to contact them?
I only know who they are because i come on here and know Hutchie runs it...aside from that i'd have had no idea. This clubs gained thousands of fans since 2002, yet i dont feel HISA has done anything to promote themselves to the new people.'"
weve done mebership application handouts at the stadium, party in park, had them in club shops, had online application form downloadable on balackandwhites
but see post above
yes i admit the last 2 years we have been probalbly dormant
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| Quote ="Chez_FC_Fan"Getting back on the subject H.I.S.A my friends and family have been HISA members from day one,i have sent an email to fc.voices asking a lot of Questions.eg. when did it rap up as it rapped up where is the money gone,why do we not have meetings anymore.Last season my husband asked Hutchie about HISA and the reply was i am not chairman anymore,dont know how that happened with out a MEETING?. Also we later found that the vice chairman stated oh i gave that up a long time ago.It would have been nice for some one from fc,Voices to have replyed but there we are we are nobody just supports of the club a lot longer than i would say must on fc,voices where born?To say i am Pi$$&d off about all these fc.Voices,HISA.Cuddle Crew,and what ever is the trend this season is an understatement Pete please do not be offended my Email was sent before you became chairman.When Steve Roberts and Mike Wiles run it the club reconised them so why dont they know?They worked very hard with the club and got RESULTS.Sorry if you think i am going over the top but to be honest i dont give a t$$$'"
I have never answered that to a question.
My reply will probably have been i dont have time for it anymore, which i dont
We never held an AGm in 2008, i could not spare the time to get it sorted and other membersof the committeehave busy home lives too
If anyone wants to take it over, feel free
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| Quote ="Standee"Well, as Hutchie hasn't deemed to reply we can assume HISA is dead in the water.
it is what we suspected'"
i have a life
one day you may get one too
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| Regarding HISA, the last I knew a senior member spoke out publicly against some things going on at the club at the time. The club contacted him personally and threatened to take him to court and sue him.
From then on the club made a public statement stating that it no longer acknowledges HISA. They pointed the way towards FC Voices and the other groups saying they were the only groups the club would deal with.
If FC Voices dare ever stand up to the club the same would happen. FC Voices were formed with the clubs guidance in such a way that the club would be able to manipulate it.
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| Quote ="Standee"Hutchie is on MSN and not RLFans, read into that what you will.'"
and as your not on my MSN list, you would know that how?
And for the record, being signed into MSN does not mean the user is sat at the PC
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Why don't the HISA knockers put up and stand for chairperson of the association if they feel they have something to give in improving the way it operates?'"
Who will run inopposition to Standee or do i just hand over now
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| Like I said the other day, people need to stop calling for HISA's involvement. The club won't recognise them and considering HISA stands for Hull Independent Supporters Association it's to be expected. All HISA can do is inform FC Voices of their members feelings through their representative (Hutchie).
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