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| It always makes me laugh the figures that are bounded about that players are on
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| Quote ="Dave K."Totally agree, if that is the amount he is on and to increase his deal would have been stupid, Lineham will be on half that and offers far more to the team IMO.
Still think we need another winger, not convinced by Crookes at all.'"
Spot on. Crookes as with all the team had a mare on Saturday. Didn't look overly confident especially with high balls. I'd be looking at a back up.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"To be fair to Tom, it's not his fault he's paid hat much. He probably signed originally on a lot less, but with rep honours it's increased. Not surprising that the old regime brokered this deal, who probably saw him as a marketing tool and paid him in relation to that aspect rather than the teams best interests.'"
Was going to post that any deal he was on was from the old lot, so AP was caught out by that before he started any negotiations.
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| Why wouldn't Tom be on something like that figure? He's been one of the best wingers in this country n does some freaky things other players cannot, if we didn't pay the money he'd have been long since gone. Would imagine it's worked its way up to a high/that figure through /appearances/England games etc. Pretty sure his next deal be well in excess of that too.
Still say we need another wing, Tom lineham gets injured at any time then we suddenly don't look very strong out wide, Jason crookes as a 3rd choice as it is now is as strong a wing line up as you'll get with lineham and Briscoe.
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| Broughton would have been a decent replacement, but I understand he'll be earning £3.6m next year.
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| Some of Briscoe's contract won't count on the cap because he plays for England and has come through our academy, so qualifies for some of the exemptions.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Broughton would have been a decent replacement, but I understand he'll be earning £3.6m next year.'"
I'd heard he'll be on £20k but his girlfriend got a job at Salford for 3 mil a year
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| I'm more upset about signing Jordan Thompson than I am about losing Briscoe or Tickle tbh. Championship player through and through. I'd rather run with a much smaller squad filled with quality, than LOADS of exceptionally average players.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I'm more upset about signing Jordan Thompson than I am about losing Briscoe or Tickle tbh. Championship player through and through. I'd rather run with a much smaller squad filled with quality, than LOADS of exceptionally average players.'"
Or you could trust Gentle's judgement.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Or you could trust Gentle's judgement.'"
I would Dave if any singular average looking signing had proved me wrong so far - which for me hasn't happened. Rugby League is my main interest. I watch around 5 games a week, and like most RL fans, I'm quite capable of spotting talent and ability. I, like yourself I believe, was banging on and on about Lineham for example well before he was given an opportunity. I believe I've seen Jordan play fullback, on the wing, and in the 2nd row, and so far I've yet to see him look better than what we have to offer in our junior ranks.
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| Quote ="Hullandproud"It always makes me laugh the figures that are bounded about that players are on
Briscoe
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Most of our squad must play for the love of the game'"
Briscoes on a lot less than £100,000 at present some folks get the salaries of players all wrong, what I do know is that our original offer was for around £120,000 and on that he would be close to the top of our pay structure, and since we withdrew that offer on the 1st May, he'll now probably be settling for a deal less at Leeds, their structure is famously lower than that. Thats of course is if he goes there. Unless Wigan come back or he opts for the uncertainty of Salford he's blown it in many ways, must be something to do with the name Briscoe!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Briscoes on a lot less than £100,000 at present some folks get the salaries of players all wrong, what I do know is that our original offer was for around £120,000 and on that he would be close to the top of our pay structure, and since we withdrew that offer on the 1st May, he'll now probably be settling for a deal less at Leeds, their structure is famously lower than that. Thats of course is if he goes there. Unless Wigan come back or he opts for the uncertainty of Salford he's blown it in many ways, must be something to do with the name Briscoe!'"
It's highly unlikely he's quite on £120k, as you say, and if that was our offer to him I'm glad he's messed it up.
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| Quote ="Goochie"Some of Briscoe's contract won't count on the cap because he plays for England and has come through our academy, so qualifies for some of the exemptions.'"
Interesting that one, because if that was the case and he wanted to stay, then I'm sure he'd have signed. I'm sure AP would have taken full advantage of all exemptions available and there's nobody else in our squad who'll qualify.
I just don't think he wants to stay.
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| I'll probably be shot down but I'm really not bothered by losing Briscoe, he's been average this year, and wasn't spectacular last year!
I'd be far more upset at losing Lineham and at this moment am much more concerned that we don't have a great goal kicker which is costing us valuable points!!
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I would Dave if any singular average looking signing had proved me wrong so far - which for me hasn't happened. Rugby League is my main interest. I watch around 5 games a week, and like most RL fans, I'm quite capable of spotting talent and ability. I, like yourself I believe, was banging on and on about Lineham for example well before he was given an opportunity. I believe I've seen Jordan play fullback, on the wing, and in the 2nd row, and so far I've yet to see him look better than what we have to offer in our junior ranks.'"
I see your point, I also feel that I can spot good players as I watch alot of rugby, there has been a few players signed my Gentle that has proven me and other wrong, Aspinwall, Mcgoldrick and Mcdonnell (although not me this one). He has also improved alot of the squad like Horne, Whiting and Houghton, He seems to have a knack of bring the best out of young players too, I'm not saying that all of his signings have been great, but he has a good record at improving players.
I seen Thompson play a few times and I see he has something, once in a better side and under gentle I think he could make a very good backrow forward, highly rated by Cas fans also.
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| Thomson for me will be a great signing, rare for someone so young to have that much top grade game time under his belt.
He's often been 1of Castlefords best players in poor sides in loads of different positions. Don't see him playing anything other than back row for us though. Think gentle will look to mould him into another Ellis while Ellis is here. Reminds me a little of Ellis at the same age.
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| I must have watched a different kid, is there two Thompson's at Cas?
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| Good player but not as awesome as most make out. Good luck to him
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"It's highly unlikely he's quite on £120k, as you say, and if that was our offer to him I'm glad he's messed it up.'"
I'd have to agree. Briscoe is an excellent player, but I can't see an argument for paying him that sort of money.
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| To state Tom Briscoe is 'easily replaceable' is laughable.
Not been blown away by Thompson, however he fits Gentle's mould and I've been happy with Pitts and Johnson so far after they got slated as been average signings.
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| [urlhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/briscoe-not-heading-to-leeds-rhinos-hetherington-1-5754990[/url
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| haha - Ryan Bailey going to the NRL??
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"[urlhttp://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/briscoe-not-heading-to-leeds-rhinos-hetherington-1-5754990[/url'"
I'll believe that when I see it....
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"haha - Ryan Bailey going to the NRL??'"
Doesn't quite say that.
Ewan Dowes played a year in Australia but it wasnt the NRL
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As I posted earlier in this thread I do feel that Leeds have more important areas to spend money on than Tom and that is in the pack rather than the backs. I still have a feeling Tom may well go to Union if Australia doesnt come off.
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