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| Maybe he just hasn't got anything of note to say or is finding it difficult to come up with acceptable reasons as to why the club have stuck with Agar in light of performances and results. You can only put so much spin on things after all, so think silence is best way of avoiding the difficult questions. Hopefully he simply too busy scouring the world for a replacement head coach
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I do not mind Rule, alright he does the spin but that is what he get's paid for and I work with people who get paid for the same thing but are not as good at it
At the end of the day he cannot be knocked for what he has done with our club finacially off the field. I believe the deafening silence is the fact that Agar could be on limited time, the next time we hear from Rule will either be celebrating our success in the cup run or sacking Agar...who knows which will come first ?'"
rule has overseen our demise from grand finalists to also rans.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I was in his company briefly on Friday after the game at Headingley. At no point did he indicate he wanted out.
he was very much down about the performance and then had to give a quick speach infront of his Leeds counterpart and their vice presidents, which cannot have been easy after the abject performance we had just put in.'"
He should sack the coach then and maybe he won't be put in such embarrasing situations on such a regular basis
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| just sack the coach eh, that solves it all
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"just sack the coach eh, that solves it all'"
it would go a hell of a long way towards it, that is beyond doubt.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"just sack the coach eh, that solves it all'"
Will go a long way if they then appoint someone capable of doing the job
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He should sack the coach then and maybe he won't be put in such embarrasing situations on such a regular basis'"
Before I go any further, I am most definately in the camp of wanting a change of coach!
Realistically, how many times do you think we have been embarrased on the pitch this season? Last Friday, being nilled and at home against Wakefield at the one I would say we have been made to look less than average.
I appreciate the need for a new coach but exaggerating your point doesn't add weight to any situation.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Before I go any further, I am most definately in the camp of wanting a change of coach!
Realistically, how many times do you think we have been embarrased on the pitch this season? Last Friday, being nilled and at home against Wakefield at the one I would say we have been made to look less than average.
I appreciate the need for a new coach but exaggerating your point doesn't add weight to any situation.'"
I would have said been embarrassed once in a season would be more than enough, but to answer your point, I'd throw in 2 games against the dobbins, the embarrassing aftermath of the cas defeat and the loss against a massively understrength leeds team on our own pitch in the season opener
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I would have said been embarrassed once in a season would be more than enough, but to answer your point, I'd throw in 2 games against the dobbins, the embarrassing aftermath of the cas defeat and the loss against a massively understrength leeds team on our own pitch in the season opener'"
Losing a derby on away soil (cp or cardiff) is not an embarrasment.
Having a game dictated by a poor official against Cas, hardly an embarrasment.
Why do we have a good given right to beat any team? Leeds may have been without a few players, but the key difference is their squad players are far better then our squad players, even to the extend they are better than our first 17.
Too many knee jerk reactions
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Losing a derby on away soil (cp or cardiff) is not an embarrasment.
Having a game dictated by a poor official against Cas, hardly an embarrasment.
Why do we have a good given right to beat any team? Leeds may have been without a few players, but the key difference is their squad players are far better then our squad players, even to the extend they are better than our first 17.
Too many knee jerk reactions
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My knees jost the potential to jerk about 5 minutes after agar had been appointed
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"rule has overseen our demise from grand finalists to also rans.'"
I'm sorry but in my opinion, Rule has overseen our rise to one of the most cash rich clubs in the league, with great merchandising and marketing departments,
say what you want about Agar, or the board,
But the fact is, that James Rule has done a great job at Hull FC and we are a better club for it.
Before criticizing, you should take a look at the websites, club shops, and professionalism of the other clubs in the league, not to mention bank balances. With respect to those areas - those areas which are actually Rule's remit - we are top of the league.
Rule does not play, coach, or pick the team - thats not what CEO's or owners are for - we are not KR
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| Quote ="OmneFC"I'm sorry but in my opinion, Rule has overseen our rise to one of the most cash rich clubs in the league, with great merchandising and marketing departments,
say what you want about Agar, or the board,
But the fact is, that James Rule has done a great job at Hull FC and we are a better club for it.
Before criticizing, you should take a look at the websites, club shops, and professionalism of the other clubs in the league, not to mention bank balances. With respect to those areas - those areas which are actually Rule's remit - we are top of the league.
Rule does not play, coach, or pick the team - thats not what CEO's or owners are for - we are not KR'"
I may be a traditionalist, but a successful sports club is not successful because it has a nice website or good merchandise.
We may be cash-rich, but that also isn't the mark of a successful sports team.
All those things, in my view, should go to support the onfield performance, which is, after all, where the fan/customer interest (and development of the other issues) stems from.
I don't support FC because they've got a nice website.
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| Quote ="Chris28"I may be a traditionalist, but a successful sports club is not successful because it has a nice website or good merchandise.
We may be cash-rich, but that also isn't the mark of a successful sports team.
All those things, in my view, should go to support the onfield performance, which is, after all, where the fan/customer interest (and development of the other issues) stems from.
I don't support FC because they've got a nice website.'"
And lets be honest, without the fans, there wouldn't be anyone to take advantage of the website, commercial activities or merchandising.
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| Quote ="OmneFC"I'm sorry but in my opinion, Rule has overseen our rise to one of the most cash rich clubs in the league, with great merchandising and marketing departments,
say what you want about Agar, or the board,
But the fact is, that James Rule has done a great job at Hull FC and we are a better club for it.
Before criticizing, you should take a look at the websites, club shops, and professionalism of the other clubs in the league, not to mention bank balances. With respect to those areas - those areas which are actually Rule's remit - we are top of the league.
Rule does not play, coach, or pick the team - thats not what CEO's or owners are for - we are not KR'"
You miss the point completely. rule is a marketing man and has done a great job on that front, transforming the club. Unfortunately, this success is underpinned by needing a decent product on the pitch and without it the best website in the world, coupled with the greatest shop and merchandise will mean diddly squat.
The club need to start performing on the pitch and quickly or all of the great work done in the last 10 years will fall down around their ears.
rule's job is to oversee and manage every aspect of the club. he can't (and has never tried to my knowledge) wash his hands of the playing side just becuase he isn't the coach
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You miss the point completely. rule is a marketing man and has done a great job on that front, transforming the club. Unfortunately, this success is underpinned by needing a decent product on the pitch and without it the best website in the world, coupled with the greatest shop and merchandise will mean diddly squat.
The club need to start performing on the pitch and quickly or all of the great work done in the last 10 years will fall down around their ears.
rule's job is to oversee and manage every aspect of the club. he can't (and has never tried to my knowledge) wash his hands of the playing side just becuase he isn't the coach'"
He won't also have the power to sack Agar without full approval of the board, so what else can he do to alter on the field performance?
And the opposite end of the argument is also true - the best performances of the field wont mean anything without a solid back office
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"rule's job is to oversee and manage every aspect of the club. he can't (and has never tried to my knowledge) wash his hands of the playing side just becuase he isn't the coach'" I find it very hard to believe that that's the case.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I find it very hard to believe that that's the case.'"
You don't believe that the CEO of a company is responsible for every aspect of it?
Maybe he can just be responsible for the good bits eh?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You don't believe that the CEO of a company is responsible for every aspect of it?
Maybe he can just be responsible for the good bits eh?'" You believe it was Rule's decision to appoint Agar and then give him an extension? Let's face it, if it wasn't for these decisions Rule wouldn't be questioned.
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| Quote ="OmneFC"He won't also have the power to sack Agar without full approval of the board'"
Without the the instruction of the board you mean. Although on the board, I don't imagine a non-shareholder has that much clout in the decision making process.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"You believe it was Rule's decision to appoint Agar and then give him an extension? Let's face it, if it wasn't for these decisions Rule wouldn't be questioned.'"
If he didn't have a hand or say in those decisions then he isn't doing the job of a CEO
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If he didn't have a hand or say in those decisions then he isn't doing the job of a CEO'" The job title of CEO can carry many different responsibilities. Maybe coaching appointments have to be done by the board?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"The job title of CEO can carry many different responsibilities. Maybe coaching appointments have to be done by the board?'"
I'm sure they have to be ratified by the board of which he is part. the fact is he should be hammering on kath's door telling her she needs to sack agar or it's all going to come tumbling down
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm sure they have to be ratified by the board of which he is part. the fact is he should be hammering on kath's door telling her she needs to sack agar or it's all going to come tumbling down'" I'm sure Rule is aware of his "place" on the board.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I'm sure Rule is aware of his "place" on the board.'"
Technically he isnt on it , they have one for the people on the coal face and a proper one for the shareholders
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm sure they have to be ratified by the board of which he is part. the fact is he should be hammering on kath's door telling her she needs to sack agar or it's all going to come tumbling down'"
Very true, thats the most sensible comment i have read on this thread,
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