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| Quote ="FC-Steward"What if the allams are doing with hull and dobbins what there doing with the council . Meaning if they don't get kc there of to Melton . What if they want to buy hull and had talks but kath and co but they are refusing to sell . So by giving money to dobbins there trying to get hull to panic and force them to sell ?'"
I agree. Pretty much the gist of my post above mate
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch""Mr Turner said I had done nothing for east Hull, [uand all of a sudden I woke up to reality.[/u He made me start thinking."
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Am I the only one who seem the irony in this?
A councillor saying to a wealthy person, what have they done for East Hull
What exactly have the council done for East Hull for the last 30 years.
The more amazing thing is, the wealthy person concluding it was a good idea to give a 7 figure sum to a company which services less than 10 % of East Hull and then have the gumption to suggest that he is already helping out Hull FC by allowing us the use of the KC.
All this after an interview on Humberside, where he "didn't want to be seen taking sides"
The man is either stupid or a liar.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"
The man is either stupid or a liar.
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I think he's simply mad: stark-staring, bonkers, loony-tunes, mad
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Hang on, Allam does realise that at least half of us East of the river support FC doesn't he?'" i would be suprised if he knows what day it is
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"The man is either stupid or a liar.
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I've come to the conclusion he's a stupid rich liar!
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"The man is either stupid or a liar.
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Or potentially both.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"I think he's simply mad: stark-staring, bonkers, loony-tunes, mad'"
I'm worried though but then again age is creeping and it may not be a problem to us
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| Quote ="geronimo"If this appears again I am sorry my previous post seems to have gone in the ether.
everything he'd done had been in the West. What has he done actually, he bought hull city for £1 (correct me if i am wrong) it was going to be for more but a loan repayment was becoming due and he had bartlet over a barrel so he deposited £1m in an escrow account and forced him to sell. (I seem to have seen that figure somewhere else).
What exactly has he invested in hull city - I would imagine ( this is just my opinion) that he has guaranteed the loan repayments using the premier league parachute payments as security this might not cover it all but you can guarantee that city's wage bill going forward apart from bullard will not be anywhere near the top 5 clubs in the championship. He is very clever - buying young players with potential that will have a higher resale value if needed.
I may be wrong but I cannot see hull city getting anywhere near the PL in the next few years and the sports village dream is just that.
They might be some more facilities and a hotel/casino development.
Personally I not trust the guy (I dont know him) but on his radio interviews he just seems to say what everyone wants to here. He also said that the KC stadium was not really worth anything (one of his past radio interviews - when asked how much he would buy it for) because it was not generating enough for the council.
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He might have given Bartlett £1, but that was because of the mess that we were in. He then paid off the immediate debts out of his own pocket, between 10 and 12 million quid.
Assuming that our (Hull FCs) deal to stay at the KC is watertight, and there is no reason to suspect that it isn't, or even that Allam wants us out then I can't see how this can be in any way a bad thing that the area around our ground is getting improved.
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| Quote ="goochie124"Assuming that our (Hull FCs) deal to stay at the KC is watertight, and there is no reason to suspect that it isn't, or even that Allam wants us out then I can't see how this can be in any way a bad thing that the area around our ground is getting improved.'"
Define 'improved'.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Define 'improved'.'"
I'm more interested in defining this "watertight" thing
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Am I the only one who seem the irony in this?
A councillor saying to a wealthy person, what have they done for East Hull
What exactly have the council done for East Hull for the last 30 years.
The more amazing thing is, the wealthy person concluding it was a good idea to give a 7 figure sum to a company which services less than 10 % of East Hull and then have the gumption to suggest that he is already helping out Hull FC by allowing us the use of the KC.
All this after an interview on Humberside, where he "didn't want to be seen taking sides"
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Indeed, and he hasn't "done" anything for West Hull either, he bought a football team, he didn't build a school, a hospital, a community centre.
All Allem has done is bought an ego boost.
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| Quote ="Standee"Indeed, and he hasn't "done" anything for West Hull either.'"
Correct
Both the teams that play at the KC are citywide and not localised like his new venture
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| Well said Standee I think his momey would be better spent on helping much more worthy causes.
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| Quote ="jampot"Well said Standee I think his momey would be better spent on helping much more worthy causes.'"
TBF he has made donations (charities) to some worthy causes in the City
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm more interested in defining this "watertight" thing'"
While 'watertight' might be a bit strong, the more I look into it the less worried I am that he could arbitrarily chuck us out if he bought the KC. I'm more concerned about the implications of his ridiculous redevelopment plans.
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| Quote ="Kosh"While 'watertight' might be a bit strong, the more I look into it the less worried I am that he could arbitrarily chuck us out if he bought the KC. I'm more concerned about the implications of his ridiculous redevelopment plans.'"
A tenant's only recourse should a landlord get awkward is through the courts, a likely long and messy process plus the situation would be untenable if we fell out with the KC owner. I'm guessing allam's pockets are deeper than Hull FC's
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"TBF he has made donations (charities) to some worthy causes in the City'"
Wrote off against Tax, most big companies do
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| If Allam bought and owned the KC would he, as a business man want it stood empty for the best part of summer. I know I wouldn't if I were the owner.
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| Quote ="Monko"If Allam bought and owned the KC would he, as a business man want it stood empty for the best part of summer. I know I wouldn't if I were the owner.'"
Or, like we keep hearing from the football morons, would he want the pitch being warn out by all the naughty heavy rugby boys in a way that it affects the football being played on it so they can't reach the promise land of the Premier League where they will obviously get lots and lots of money and not get into financial problems?
(Despite the obvious fact that the pitch is always in better condition when the football has stopped being played on it, and always in worse condition after the rugby has stopped!).
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"A tenant's only recourse should a landlord get awkward is through the courts, a likely long and messy process plus the situation would be untenable if we fell out with the KC owner. I'm guessing allam's pockets are deeper than Hull FC's'"
Depends on what you define as getting awkward. We'd have to have a really crappy lease for him to make our position untenable either through eviction or punitive rent increase.
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| allam is a media whore and nothing more, everything he does is designed to enhance his own reputation and nothing more!!
he is at the end of the day a businessman with a very direct reputation so all this about "i dont make money out of sport" is utter tosh. seems to me he is putting a lot of time and money into something he wont make any money from huh??
As for the KC I am utterly convinced that the agreements and contracts detail will be in place to prevent any harm coming to FC, AND i am convinced that there will be details in that agreement to cover eventualities such as this !!
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"allam is a media whore and nothing more, everything he does is designed to enhance his own reputation and nothing more!!
he is at the end of the day a businessman with a very direct reputation so all this about "i dont make money out of sport" is utter tosh. seems to me he is putting a lot of time and money into something he wont make any money from huh??
As for the KC I am utterly convinced that the agreements and contracts detail will be in place to prevent any harm coming to FC, AND i am convinced that there will be details in that agreement to cover eventualities such as this !!'"
Make your mind up..the other day you said those who wanted rid of Kath may get their wish!!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Depends on what you define as getting awkward. We'd have to have a really crappy lease for him to make our position untenable either through eviction or punitive rent increase.'"
You don't need to evict someone to make things difficult for them. Having a private owner of the KC would leave us vulnerable
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